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ApexWifi
Nov 02, 2023Tutor
Orbi 970 - Ethernet Backhaul Switches Back and Forth between wired and wireless
New Orbi 970 tripack - Satellites switch between wired backhaul to wireless randomly. Tried every troubleshooting step possible and was only stable for about 6hrs today.
CaptiveBolt
Nov 21, 2023Aspirant
I have been scouring the internet trying to figure this out. Turns out, after reading a the online manual for my old linksys switch, the first 8 ports are POE+. I changed my incoming signal to the 9th switch, and re wired the 2 satellites to ports 10 and 11. Showing as wired for the past 4 hours.
Don't know if its actually the reason, or what was causing my ONE satellite to go from wired to wireless, since they released a FW update today,V9.10.1.4, but nonetheless, this little goose chase seems to have worked out. Hope this helps anyone who may be dealing with the same issue.
FURRYe38
Nov 22, 2023Guru - Experienced User
I would surmise that your switch maybe the culprit. What is the model of that Linksys switch?
Also what CAT# LAN cable are you using?
CaptiveBolt wrote:
I have been scouring the internet trying to figure this out. Turns out, after reading a the online manual for my old linksys switch, the first 8 ports are POE+. I changed my incoming signal to the 9th switch, and re wired the 2 satellites to ports 10 and 11. Showing as wired for the past 4 hours.
Don't know if its actually the reason, or what was causing my ONE satellite to go from wired to wireless, since they released a FW update today,V9.10.1.4, but nonetheless, this little goose chase seems to have worked out. Hope this helps anyone who may be dealing with the same issue.
- CaptiveBoltNov 22, 2023AspirantIt’s a pretty old switch- the linksys lgs116pv2. All my cable is cat5e, my house was built in 2007.
Originally I was using the switch with ports 1,2, and 3-
Setup consisted of fiber/ONT to RB router, then router to bedroom ethernet jack, switch panel jack to switch being fed by router, then patched from switch back into corresponding jacks on central panel that feeds 2 rooms… then Satellites patched to those room wall jacks.
Like the op, I had ONE satellite that would switch from wired to wireless, even after syncing wired.
As I write this, both satellites are still showing as wired- this was after the FW update, and using the same switch but on ports 9, 10, and 11.
Either it is a coincidence, or it is the switch, and FW- or one or the other… lol.
What I can tell you is that I spent 3 days trying to figure it out. I switched the satellites from room to room to test, and it always led back to the one room that was on the number 2 port on the linksys…
Like I mentioned, im not sure if POE + had anything to do with it, perhaps interference? Not sure, but it sure seems like it with my limited network knowledge, because 30 hours later, the wired connection has not faltered at all. Either way, im pretty happy it’s as solid as it has been now.
The online manual mentioned the first 8 ports as having “POE +” I know what “power over Ethernet” is… it mentioned the + which was sort of vague…
Also, this particular switch is unmanaged, but has QOS… seems like a possible issue too… who knows.
I may end up just buying a more recent switch, but for now, it works.- FURRYe38Nov 22, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Ya PoE may have played a role along with being a older and a managed switch. CAT5E though works for 1Gb connections, does not officially support 2.5 or 10Gb connections so you may see issues there. CAT6A STP is recommended for ethernet connection speeds 2.5Gb and above.
I recommend getting a Netgear GS series 1##/3## non managed switches which support 1Gb if you want to connect the RBS with a 1Gb backhaul. If you want Higher backhaul speeds up to 10Gb, you'll need one of the following that NG has and works well with my system: XS505M and GS110MX work great with the 9 series. NG does have other multi gig switches as well.
- CaptiveBoltNov 22, 2023AspirantYeah- thanks for the reply. 1gig is as good as it’s going to get for me…
Our house is 4000 sq ft… and it’s ALL cat5e. Re wiring isn’t really an option… I did try the wireless backhaul, and it was pretty mediocre… everything ran at around 200 mbps, except from the RB router, and only when proximal to it did I get around 500mbps…
The wired backhaul, even though it’s capped at 1gig, has been far and away better than the wireless backhaul…
like most, I don’t even have a wifi 7 device in my house… but I like the latest tech, so when it’s widely available, one less thing to have to buy.
I really do believe after dealing with this, it was the switch… and sadly, I would have still been chasing a ghost had i not taken the time to read the online manual… these things are often hidden to the untrained eye.