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Unable to Use Guest Wifi in AP Mode and a Switched Wired Backhaul
Hi, Summary: Need a solution to run a Guest Network on a Orbi 970 Wifi 7 system in AP mode with a switched and wired backhaul I have a Firewalla Gold Pro router feeding internet into a Netgea...
Quazimodo wrote:
Does anyone have a resolution for running a Guest Network on a Orbi 970 Wifi 7 system in AP mode with wired backhaul? Is there a way to use VLAN instead of having the Guest Network run a DHCP server?
Could you please confirm exactly how the router and satellites are connected.
i.e.
- The RBE971 router WAN port is connected to the Firewalla Gold, not to the 10GB Ethernet switch.
- The RBE971 router 10GB LAN port is connected to the 10GB switch.
- The two RBE970 satellites are connected to the 10GB switch.
First off, thanks for your responses.
Currently, the configuration that works for guest network, but has an unwanted 2.5Gbps link at e):
a) Firewalla Gold Pro router LAN port connected to a Mikrotik CRS312, a 10Gbps switch
b) CRS312 port connected to WAN port of RBE971 in AP mode. This minimizes latency to wired gaming devices and network, critical for online gaming.
c) WAN port of RBE971 in AP mode connected to CRS312 switch, where it can't harm latency to wired network.
d) 10 Gbps LAN port of RBE971 connected to 10 Gbps of an RBE970 satellite
e) 2.5 Gbps LAN port of RBE970 connected to 10 Gpbs of the other RBE970 satellite.
Prior to that I had a TP-Link TL-SX105 10Gbps switch in between c) to d), and c) to e). But the guest network did not work for the satellites. Everything else worked as a true 10Gbps network, including the main Wifi. The only issue was the guest network, because of the 192.168.2.X.
And even before that I had a) and b) and all 10Gbps LAN ports of RBE971 and RBE970 connected to the CRS 312 switch. That did not work for main Wifi, you can't have the RBE971 WAN and LAN port on the same switch as per Netgear support.
Thanks.
If you put a non managed switch, as a temporary test, Get a NG GS 105 or GS305 non managed switch in c) to d), and c) to e). Just connect the GS series switch to one of the other non 10Gb ports behind the RBR for now.
This is only a 1Gb temporary to test to see if you can get both RBS ethernet connected BEHIND the RBR with a non managed switch in between and Guest Network working. Thinking there is something going on with the Tp-Link switch, may not a fully non managed as they say. I have tested the above NG model switches with my 970 series and all works when ethernet connected in between the RBR and RBS when not using my XS505M and GS110MX.
WAN and LAN ports from the RBR can not be ever connected to the same switch. Causes a network loop and arp storm. All must be daisy chained connection wise.
Thanks, I ordered a Netgear switch and I'll post the result when I get it.
One support technician did suggest a Netgear switch at some point due to their "proprietary backhaul solution", but when we searched at length for a 10Gbps consumer one they could not find one. Still want to know though. If the slower speed works then I'll buy their small 10Gbps consumer switch if they have one coming out.
My Orbi system is past the return date, I regret not fully testing the Guest network earlier but I was happy with everything else working.
NG XS505M or XS508M and GS110MX are 10Gb support. I have the 505M and 110MX. Both work with my BE systems.
Trust me, GN will work. Just need right Switch in between.
There are long standing known issues with managed switches in between the RBR and RBS. Why there not recommended in these configurations in between the RBR and RBS. And honestly, not really needed, where non managed switches work just fine here.
Also experienced with keeping brands with in brands and not use cross brands in the mix. Seen odd issues and though brands should be using same specs and tech, there are some odd differences that can introduce odd issues and problems. So learned a while ago, with Orbi systems, keep with NG for networking connections and switches. Will help limit the problems.
