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Why can't I see 6ghz on my Orbi 970
Why can't I see the 6ghz on my Orbi 970? It claims it has it but I don't see it anywhere in my orbilogin.
But it claimed it has 6ghz when I bought it, shouldn't it be there tho?
Or is something else is at play?
Or is something else is at play?
If you use the Orbi router IP address assigned by your network, and have the Default User ID and Password (I don’t remember them now, and you will be prompted to change them at LogIn, but the Netgear on-line User Manual for the WIFI 7 router will have information on using the Web GUI) log into the Orbi router Web GUI and you will find several different screens that show you the WiFi frequencies (2.4/5/6 GHz bands) and the channels being used along with much more useful router information.
With the original 2.4/5Ghz WiFi bands, the router allows you to select (on/off) if you want to use 1 or the other (or both bands) for WIFI connections, but since WIFI 7 (and also WIFI 6E) must use 6GHz, I assume Netgear doesn’t want a user to turn off or adjust power on 6GHz band as that can dramatically impact “WIFI 7” speeds and performance of these new routers.
Also remember, the FCC re-allocated much of our 6GHz WIFI bandwidth and has/will reclaim bandwidth from primarily governmental agencies. There are still agencies using some 6GHz bandwidth, so the FCC currently doesn’t allow any changes (e.g. power level, etc) related to 6GHz WIFI, thus, the vendors (like NG) are highly restricted as to how 6GHz bandwidth can be used.
With the original 2.4/5Ghz WiFi bands, the router allows you to select (on/off) if you want to use 1 or the other (or both bands) for WIFI connections, but since WIFI 7 (and also WIFI 6E) must use 6GHz, I assume Netgear doesn’t want a user to turn off or adjust power on 6GHz band as that can dramatically impact “WIFI 7” speeds and performance of these new routers.
Also remember, the FCC re-allocated much of our 6GHz WIFI bandwidth and has/will reclaim bandwidth from primarily governmental agencies. There are still agencies using some 6GHz bandwidth, so the FCC currently doesn’t allow any changes (e.g. power level, etc) related to 6GHz WIFI, thus, the vendors (like NG) are highly restricted as to how 6GHz bandwidth can be used.
Roc1 wrote:
since WIFI 7 (and also WIFI 6E) must use 6GHz,Just a tiny clarification. WiFi7 uses more capable features in all three WiFi frequency bands (2.4G, 5G, 6G) and WiFi systems can be WiFi7 Certified without supporting the 6G frequency band. See only of the statements toward the bottom of:
There are rumors that Netgear is testing an "Entry Level" WiFi7 product which supports only 2.4G and 5G frequencies.
FYI, NG is only supporting MLO and 7 specs on 5 and 6Ghz only.
Thanks, I missed that the 2.4G band is only 1024K encoding, rather than the 4K of WiFi7. Probably one of the reasons that Netgear does not include the WiFi7 Certified logo in any of the material on the web site.
(not that I can imagine very many 2.4G devices ever supporting WiFi7 - 802.11be)
Ya devices are mostly 5 and 6Ghz supporting these days. No IoT devices may ever see 5 or 6Ghz. Generally. There are some on 5Ghz like Web cams and NEST controllers.
CrimpOn wrote:
Thanks, I missed that the 2.4G band is only 1024K encoding, rather than the 4K of WiFi7. Probably one of the reasons that Netgear does not include the WiFi7 Certified logo in any of the material on the web site.
(not that I can imagine very many 2.4G devices ever supporting WiFi7 - 802.11be)
Wrong my friend.
While most modern mobile devices supporting WiFi 7 -and- 2.4 GHz except of a few cost-down models by various vendors most can use all available bands for seamless roaming -and- (of course) most, are supporting 4k encoding. The difference between the bands is the bandwidth available. On the 2.4 GHz band it's at least 20 MHz, where not so dense locations allow 40 MHz; on 5 GHz and 6 GHz this can be up to 320 MHz.
The reason for not sending products to the so called "certification" is typically cost, barley technical capabilities. But I'm not Netgear ...
I was thinking more along the line of: All these inexpensive IoT gizmos support only 2.4G because:
- Their networking requirements are almost nothing. e.g. "Turn on" "Turn off" "lower volume" etc.
- The greater range of 2.4G WiFi is more important than any potential speed improvement from 5G.
- Saving even pennies on manufacturing cost results in being more price competitive.
Are those companies likely to include WiFi7 capabilities in these gizmos?
Someone buying a laptop with an Intel WiFi7 module will get the capability to do WiFi7 on 2.4G when too far from the access point to get a good 5G (or 6G) connection. Alas, their Netgear WiFi7 system will not support those WiFi7 protocols on the 2.4G band.
