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WiFi 7 and iPhone 16 Pro Max along with wireless backhaul
Having issues with iPhone 16 Max Pro's and iPad Pro's each will intermittently drop WiFi signal & WiFi calling and try to default toward using the cellular network. My setup is the following: F...
phillipsaz your config seems almost identical to mine, house too, except I have 2 satellites.
Is this a 970 system? If it is, the wireless backhaul does not use the same channel as the devices do - it's a dedicate wireless backhaul. Right FURRYe38 ? Is this true for 770 and 870 as well?
Not a lot to offer here, we know Apple/NG are working on this. It's actually banding issues, conflict between devices. The 2.4 and 5GHz channels don't really affect the 6 and 7 usage (5 is used for the 7), and we don't know what the 6E/7 channel decisions are that are being made as we have no config for that.
My experience has been when the devices flip to 5G, if you wait max 2-3 minutes, they figure it out and flip back - you don't have to forget the network. Can you try that? It's a lot easier if it works for you.
Yes it is the 970 system Black Edition. I have a 2nd Sat but i don't have it online or powered up. It was overkill for my house. So, I did a Wifi scan on all my wireless networks and the backhaul broadcasts on random channels and I saw it used Channel 6 and Channel 44. Odd right? I would like to be able to just turn it off since my backhaul is wired..Process of elimination. However, they don't have that capability.
I am not clear on how WiFi 7 works. See the definition:
WiFi 7 operates on the 2.4GHz, 5GHz, and 6GHz radio spectrum bands and doubles the number of MU-MIMO (Multi-User, Multiple-Input, Multiple-Output) streams to 16, enabling WiFi 7 to handle more throughput than its predecessors.
I can never get my devices to flip back to Wifi when it drops and tries to go cellular.. It never reconnects, I have waited 5 to 10 min during troubleshooting. Thanks for replying..
On the Orbi network, WiFi 7 just uses the 6GHz+5GHz channels in tandem - not the 2.4 - you can see that reported in the router admin web page's device list.
Did you say above that Apple devices would flip to cellular even when on the IoT network? Are you sure they stayed on that network? I have found they will fit back to the main network (not sure why - maybe because WiFi 6E/7 is available there?). You have to 'forget' the main network on the Apple devices to keep them on the IoT network, in my experience. The reason I say that is odd, is that there is no 6E or 7 on the IoT network - just 5 and 2.4. I have never seen cellular flips when a device is on 5 or 2.4.
More similarities in our configs - I too have black 970, and I have IPv6 (many don't still, plus NG defaults it to 'off' on a new install).
EDIT/UPDATE: Just heard from Netgear Eng - you have to 'forget' the main network for Apple devices connecting to the IoT network, or they will switch back. If you didn't do that, can you try the test again? I bet it will work fine as it's only 5GHz tops.
https://www.netgear.com/hub/wifi/mesh/orbi-enhanced-dedicated-backhaul/
Yes NG only uses 5 and 6Ghz for there MLO on WiFi7.
