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Pzrldralt
Dec 06, 2024Aspirant
AX12 speed drops
M1000v2 I had a Nighthawk 7800 router that began experiencing internet speed drops. A friend who is an IT tech suggested I buy a new router since it was about 5 years old. I bought a Nighthawk AX12....
michaelkenward
Dec 07, 2024Guru - Experienced User
What is your new router?
AX12 is not a unique Netgear model number. Many devices come with the AC/AX tag, but it is essentially a label that Netgear, and others, attach to hardware to describe wifi speeds.
Look at the label on the device for the Model Number. And, if there is one, include the "V" bit to show the hardware version. If there is no V number, then you have V1.
RAX120? RAX200?
Did you run the new router through its Internet setup wizard? You may need to reset the CM1000v2 to get it to forget any relationship with the R7800.
On which, "buy a new router" seems to be a bit heavy handed. Did you try anything to fix that issue? The R7800 (2016) may be a bit aged, but the RAX routers (~2018) are hardly that much nearer to the bleeding edge.
Just another user with time on their hands.
Pzrldralt
Dec 07, 2024Aspirant
Model is RAX120'
Just experienced another speed drop.This time the router was flashing orange on the Multi Gig port which is where the PC was connected. Switched to port 1 and speed returned to normal.
The old Genie software isn't compatible with the new one and yes, it ran through the Setup Wizard on startup. The router has been cycled more times in 3 days than the old 7800 was in it's lifespan.
The 7800 was replaced at the suggestion of a friend of mine who is an IT tech. He pretty much ruled any other possible issue. He's been a tech all his life, some 45 yrs experience.
- michaelkenwardDec 07, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Pzrldralt wrote:
Switched to port 1 and speed returned to normal.
Perhaps you have discovered the solution.
The old Genie software isn't compatible with the new one and yes, it ran through the Setup Wizard on startup. The router has been cycled more times in 3 days than the old 7800 was in it's lifespan.
Not sure what you mean by "old Genie software". If you mean the mobile app, then you can use the Nighthawk app instead. But in general it is preferable to use a web browser and the graphical user interface. That gives you more control over things that are beyond the apps.
Netgear is trying to kill the desktop genie, but for the time being you can find it here:
genie | Product | Support | NETGEAR
Be warned that the genie installation file is wrapped up in a RAR archive that you have to decompress.
He pretty much ruled any other possible issue. He's been a tech all his life, some 45 yrs experience.We've seen those claims here often. But they don't add up to much without a bit more than "trust me I am an expert". Replace a troublesome router with another router that causes issues, and you have to suspect that some other factor may be involved.
We don't know what was going wrong with the R7800. Any number of things can lie behind "internet speed drops".
I am sure you asked this veteran for help with the new router. What did they say?
My first "modem" was an acoustic coupler, followed by a dial-up modem. But I wouldn't claim that that gave me any great insights into modern routers.
Just another user with time on their hands.
- PzrldraltDec 07, 2024Aspirant
The old Genie App was a download from Netgear, I still have it archived. We never found a fix for the 7800. I did find out the amber port light indicated a 100/10 gig speed connection. This also happened shortly after I switched to the #1 port, I actually watched it happen. When it's white I have the correct 600/23 speed. The other end of the connection on the PC which is always green had turned amber also. The Netgear App crashes on my phone so I have to use the router login web page for access. At this point I'm thinking of splitting the internet. One through cable to the PC bypassing the router and the other to the router for WiFi only. I bought two new Cat 6a cables also. As for Netgear support, they sent an email saying the router was past it's "shelf life" of 15 month for warranty. "Shelf life" defined as manufacturing date till sales date.
Router was manufactured on 3/30/2022 though I just got it new on 12/4.
- FURRYe38Dec 07, 2024Guru - Experienced User
Genie app isn't supported anymore. You need to download and install the Nighthawk app to montor and check the router. Can setup the router using the NH app however I prefer using the routers web page.
What is the brand and model# of the PC connected now at port 1?
What brand and model# is the ethernet adapter installed in the PC?
- FURRYe38Dec 07, 2024Guru - Experienced User
What is the brand and model# of the PC connected now at port 1?
What brand and model# is the ethernet adapter installed in the PC?
Pzrldralt wrote:
Model is RAX120'
Just experienced another speed drop.This time the router was flashing orange on the Multi Gig port which is where the PC was connected. Switched to port 1 and speed returned to normal.
The old Genie software isn't compatible with the new one and yes, it ran through the Setup Wizard on startup. The router has been cycled more times in 3 days than the old 7800 was in it's lifespan.
The 7800 was replaced at the suggestion of a friend of mine who is an IT tech. He pretty much ruled any other possible issue. He's been a tech all his life, some 45 yrs experience.