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Nighthawk AX8 vs Orbi AC3000
Hi there,
Currently I own or have the Orbi AC3000 with one satellite. I am on the fence right now, I love my MESH routers, however, they do not play nice with my WiFi cameras as they tend to sw...
Might help to trouble shoot the Orbi system first.
What Firmware is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?
Is the Orbi system operating in Router or AP mode?
What is the Mfr and model# of the ethernet switch if one is in the configuration.
What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between them to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
Placement is key.
What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?
What WPA security modes are you using?
Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings
Try disabling the following and see:
Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).
The RAX routers may or may not be of any help. Also since AX is the new standard, your current devices would not be using the new AX standard since they don't support AX. I presume the cameras are N mode cameras?
I have 3 cameras connected to a RBK50 and have zero problems. There 2.4Ghz only supporting cameras though.
Hitron
Here are the answers to the questions that were asked:
Router Firmware Version V2.3.1.4
Modem Model
Hitron CODA-45
It is Router Mode
There is no switch involved, just the Main Orbi and one Satellite (under attached devices the Satellite does state that connection type is 5g? does that matter?)
Living space is 1216sq ft built in 1984 bottom floor 568sq ft top floor 648 sq ft
The main unit is placed upstairs front bedroom behind the computer monitors, items connected to is the Modem, then home computer, ZOSI 4PCS 720p Wireless Outdoor IP Camera System with Network Video Recording kit. Satellite is placed in the downstairs middle of the house, on a ledge that seperates the living from the kitchen. Connected wired devices, LG LED TV, PS4, Roku and Laptop used to for the TV.
Channeling is set to Auto
WiFi Neighbors, see attached photo of the spectrum of WiFi, highest is mine.
WPA settings, WPS2-PSK [AES]
Beamforming, Mu-MIMO, Fast roaming are enabled.WMM is enabled on both 2.4 and 5GHz
Daisy Chain enabled - will disbale
Fast Roaming is enabled - will disable
IPv6 is disabled
20/40 MHz is not checked on 2.4GHz, will not let me select 40MHz alone see photo
Camera setup
Ring - Doorbell Pro 2.4/5GHz uses Ring Chime Pro attached to outside front door, signal has to pass through 2 doors before it his WiFi Satellite so it uses Ring Chime Pro to boost it
Ring - Flood Light Cam outside rear deck, also uses a different Ring Chime Pro. I've worked with RING Tech support. If I remove one of the Chime Pros the strength of either one becomes allot weaker due to distance.
Xiaomi Mi - 6 total, 4 1080p 1 720p fixed cameras and 1 1080p 360 Dome
ZOSI 4PCS Megapixel 720P Wireless Outdoor IP Camera System 30M Night vision with 4CH Security 720P HD Network NVR Wifi Kit
So I upgraded (so I thought) to the newer AX8 Netgear NightHawk. Man am I ever sorry I wasted my time going to this router. Given I do not live in a large house as explained in my previous comments but that AC3000 Orbi made everything so simple. Every item that connected to the router or satellite, connected with SPEED, everything. WIth this new AX8, even devices on the 5GHz are running slow. I am not sure what I might be doing that is wrong but it is horrible, I am going to give it till the end of the weekend and if it does not improve I am going to send it back. Ways that it is worse than before, even though the 2.4GHz now has 1.2GPs rather than 400MBs my cameras are finding it harder to stay online or connected, why, well now there is just the router upstairs, there is no Satellite for them to connect to so some are farther away than they were before. The RING products I still have the CHIME PROs hooked up so they still have their satellite(s) so to speak to connect to and help boost their strength. My MI cameras they do alright, however, the ZOSI cameras keep going offline more than before. My Note 9 used to hit speeds of 300 using Speedtest, now I'm lucky to hit 60. Maybe I have something wrong, I do not know, I combined the two together to see if that helps 2.4/5GHz to make one login and we will see. Maybe I need to power everything down and try again? Not so sure either.
Did you figure it out?