port forwarding changes from R8000 to RAX43

I've run Minecraft servers and most recently the PalWorld server on my R8000 with no issue, but a recent upgrade to a RAX43 has me stumped as to what is blocking traffic. we run it private, but, It shows up in the list if i make it public, sadly incoming requests just time out on either setting

This is a Used unit. I did a hard reset to get it up and responding to the app, and I had a netgear tech walk me through setup after getting 'no internet connection' randomly on this side of the house seems to function ok otherwise

my only worry, that some function is failing in port forwarding but working for everything else so overlooked when being "refurbished" I need to see if this is the case before the return window closes.

ports needed and set as TCP/UDP 8211,25565,27015-27016 internal/external checked as use same.

usually simple but other possibilities...

1) I have NAT set to be OPEN, (this was true for Minecraft) But, I've tried Both

2) Does the new Protection Engine need to be ON/OFF not sure what it does, but again, I've tried Both

3) i reserved an IP for my PC as every couple reboots it would change, don't believe it's an issue but figured i'd mention it.

4) the new router changed my external ip which i changed in the config file for the game server, don't see that as an issue doubletriplequadruplechecked  the .ini repeatedly.... i'm at a loss.

5) I replaced a cheap AP with the R8000 at the opposing end of the house in the AV jungle. it saw the rax43, switched its internal ip auto-magic-Ly and is doing what it is supposed to.

any change on the R8000 prompted a reboot, docs i've read say the 43 makes these changes to port without

2 days and a fall asleep on keyboard night has not gotten the server to connect, what could I be missing.

new round of double checking and i'm ready to reboot cya

any suggestions would be appreciated

tia