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JimTurkey
Sep 23, 2021Guide
Two Nighthawk AX5400 (RAX50) routers in one house? U-Verse related!
Our house is in the shape of a capital "L". Our U-Verse BGW210 is located at the small end of the "L". Our bedroom & office are located at the big end of the "L". As a result, our wi-fi reception is ...
plemans
Sep 23, 2021Guru - Experienced User
If you're needing 2x devices, might be better to check into a mesh system like orbi or the MK nighthawk
I'd check into the tribands as the dedicated backhaul helps quite a bit.
Not sure if you have the RAX50 already but for the price of 2x of them, the MK83 or RBK753 would be cheaper and have another satellite to help with coverage.
JimTurkey
Sep 23, 2021Guide
We currently have a Google Nest Wifi set up. The router is set up with the U-Verse BGW210, 1 point is located at the intersection of the "L", and 1 point is in the middle of the big part of the "L". Our internet service is 1000Mbps with us actually testing out at around 900 at the Google router. However, at the of the big part of the "L" we are sometimes seeing 20Mbps. This doesn't work with my wife's job as an online teacher.
So I guess my question is this: Would the Orbi perform better than the Google Nest?
- plemansSep 23, 2021Guru - Experienced User
what model google wifi is it?
The tribands have been pretty rock solid and allow daisy chaining.
It really helps with speeds for the situation like you're in where its L shaped
- JimTurkeySep 23, 2021GuideGoogle Nest WiFi Router 3 Pack (2nd Generation) – 4x4 AC2200 Mesh Wi-Fi Routers with 6600 Sq Ft Coverage
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08F1YPMS1?tag=cnet-api-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=144a775d-ee29-4f96-aeda-ba72931f456c%7C-%7Camp%7Cus&guid=1*pn65mu*client_id*TWNHRXpBd3I2cGdsZUJ0eEtDdzd4VGozSGdmUktuRzMwTVVKYWI3OFBMbmtHNGxRZjB3aUNrQ1VuTndMTEZIcQ..*page_view_id*OTE5OQ..*advertisement_id*TWNHRXpBd3I2cGdsZUJ0eEtDdzd4VGozSGdmUktuRzMwTVVKYWI3OFBMbmtHNGxRZjB3aUNrQ1VuTndMTEZIcXw5MTk5#- plemansSep 23, 2021Guru - Experienced User
That model is based on a dual band router. It doesn't have a dedicated backhaul. So if its setup in a daisy chain configuration, each hop in the chain takes a 50% speed loss of whatever its getting. Plus 2.4ghz is slower.
So if you're paying for 200mbps. Thats what the first router/Satellite is starting at.
The 2nd satellite might get that full 200 mbps over 5ghz and say roughly 60mbps over 2.4ghz (2.4ghz is slow). That's what it receives. It sends out to devices half of that so 100mbps over 5ghz and 30mbps over 2.4ghz.
Say if the 3rd device gets full speeds and has the 100mbps over 5ghz and 30mbps over 2.4ghz is only going to put out 50mbps over 5ghz and 15mbps over 2.4ghz.
Again, those are rough figures and the satellites never receive full speeds that are sent out because of distance/interference/etc.
If you have the chance, hardwire in that nest home products. They support wired backhaul and then don't take the same speed hit. Also check if you're using 2.4ghz or 5ghz when using speeds. 2.4ghz is a slow network and if you're daisy chained, it impacts it even more.
Benefit to triband mesh systems is that they have a dedicated wireless backhaul between router and satellites. So they don't take the same speed hit on the first leg of it. The 2nd one is going to decrease performance but not as much as the dual band systems.
- JimTurkeySep 23, 2021Guide
plemans wrote:what model google wifi is it?
The tribands have been pretty rock solid and allow daisy chaining.
It really helps with speeds for the situation like you're in where its L shaped
So of the following options, which would you recommend based on my situation:
As a reminder, our house (2300 square feet) is in the shape of a capital "L". Our U-Verse BGW210 is located at the small end of the "L". Our bedroom & office are located at the big end of the "L". As a result, our wi-fi reception is spotty throughout the house, and especially at the big end of the "L". We pay for 1000Mbps but are seeiming only 20Mbps at times in the bedroom & office.
- plemansSep 23, 2021Guru - Experienced User
I'd look at the RBK753 renewed on amazon. Half the price of those. Not the same performance as the RBK853 but has the wireless backhaul that'll help.
The RBK853 is the top of the line. But it costs that.
I'd look for a set with the 2 satellites (so router + 2 satellites). That way you can put one in the middle to help with performance.