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Restoring LOCAL parental control functionality
So since Netgear is removing the "Live Parental Control" from their routers (which is good, I don't want to have to go to some other site just to change configuration), just WHEN are you going to res...
You are entirely correct. Good luck on fiinding something. I searched for "Best Parental Controls" and am not sure I believe their story:
https://www.lifewire.com/best-parental-control-routers-4160776
CrimpOn wrote:You are entirely correct. Good luck on fiinding something. I searched for "Best Parental Controls" and am not sure I believe their story:
https://www.lifewire.com/best-parental-control-routers-4160776
I see a couple that apparently require a cellphone app to manage the router, or at least to manage the parental controls. Being forced to use a phone/tablet is just unacceptable to me, and I'll automatically reject any such product.
One particular issue I see with most Parental Controls is they are far too "static" in their configurations. I need to be able to dynamically shut off a connection, or to temporarily tweak a profile. And it seems a lot of these are relying on DNS to manage connections and filtering, but it would seem once a device has already run a DNS query, then it will have it in an ARP cache and won't hit DNS for a while (I know just enough networking to be dangerous :smileyfrustrated:). Technically what I'm in need of is more "access controls" than "parental controls", but they usually get lumped together.
As I had this R6220 that we had bought for a temporary usage for a tenant, and now we don't need it for that anymore, I had hoped to make use of it for home. Doesn't look as though it's fit for purpose. I've looked at OpenWRT as an alternative [1}; it should be quite capable of doing it but figuring out the commands and scripting is a pain. My daughter will probably graduate from high school before I get that worked out.
[1] (I have a R7000 I found in an electronics recycling bin; it has 19.7.7 on it right now. As I say above, figuring out the access/parental controls is not so straightforward, although if I can figure the commands out it should be simple enough to make Ansible playbooks to do what I want).
jelabarre59 wrote:
I see a couple that apparently require a cellphone app to manage the router, or at least to manage the parental controls. Being forced to use a phone/tablet is just unacceptable to me, and I'll automatically reject any such product.
This is so interesting. My mobile is always in my shirt pocket. Opening the Orbi app and sliding the "Pause" button would be a lot more convenient than logging into a computer interface, navigating to some screen, etc. "Different strokes for different folks".
jelabarre59 wrote:One particular issue I see with most Parental Controls is they are far too "static" in their configurations. I need to be able to dynamically shut off a connection, or to temporarily tweak a profile. And it seems a lot of these are relying on DNS to manage connections and filtering, but it would seem once a device has already run a DNS query, then it will have it in an ARP cache and won't hit DNS for a while (I know just enough networking to be dangerous :smileyfrustrated:). Technically what I'm in need of is more "access controls" than "parental controls", but they usually get lumped together.
Technically, it is the DNS cache, and Yes, entries stay in the local device cache until their "Time to Live" expires. I have seen articles about "How do Parental Controls work" discussing whether they are only DNS or have some other capabilities. Having no one to "Parent", I have not spent much time researching how controls work.
CrimpOn wrote:This is so interesting. My mobile is always in my shirt pocket. Opening the Orbi app and sliding the "Pause" button would be a lot more convenient than logging into a computer interface, navigating to some screen, etc. "Different strokes for different folks".
Oh, I could certainly make occasional use of an app, but only in addition to a web or CLI interface. You need to be able to type information, and copy/paste as well. Anything more than minimal settings is awkward or even outright impossible on a phone screen.
Well, these are home systems for consumers - where the majority of users just want flawless Internet. The last thing consumers want is a CLI, or the requirement to type much, ...
Of course, as an old IT infrastructure and network crow the blunt minimum would be a Web UI - as a nice to have.
Curious what you would intend to type, copy-paste, in the parental control context here...?
And in the same context I would like to hear how you would seriously reach the ability to "locally" control (technically!) the access just on a router in the data stream - considering kids are smarter than most parents - and without taking the end user device under strict security policy management.
