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jelabarre59
Apr 25, 2021Star
Restoring LOCAL parental control functionality
So since Netgear is removing the "Live Parental Control" from their routers (which is good, I don't want to have to go to some other site just to change configuration), just WHEN are you going to res...
schumaku
Apr 29, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Well, these are home systems for consumers - where the majority of users just want flawless Internet. The last thing consumers want is a CLI, or the requirement to type much, ...
Of course, as an old IT infrastructure and network crow the blunt minimum would be a Web UI - as a nice to have.
Curious what you would intend to type, copy-paste, in the parental control context here...?
And in the same context I would like to hear how you would seriously reach the ability to "locally" control (technically!) the access just on a router in the data stream - considering kids are smarter than most parents - and without taking the end user device under strict security policy management.
jelabarre59
Apr 29, 2021Star
I would think a router should be able to start rejecting packets from some particular endpoint (MAC address of the device you want to cut off). That would effectively cut off an internet connection because the router would not handle the packets going out or coming in. I know the connections at a prior job could immediately drop connections for certain situations (misbehaving or misconfigured hardware usually).
It isn't like my daughter could use a cell phone as a work-around, because we don't have a cell signal at our house. Sure, she's clever when she wants, but generally she's too lazy to try. And I suppose if I put up enough roadblocks she'd start making an effort just to try working around them (a win in itself).
- schumakuApr 29, 2021Guru - Experienced User
When you think about that modern OS default to random MAC addresses ... blocking and manging MAC must be fun.
Other proposals?
PS. My sons are in the mid twenties now. They faced managed switches with port security some 20 years ago, and commercial grade firewall. So they had to be on a steep learning curve 8-)
PPS. It's a war you can't win.
- CrimpOnApr 29, 2021Guru - Experienced User
jelabarre59 wrote:I would think a router should be able to start rejecting packets from some particular endpoint (MAC address of the device you want to cut off). That would effectively cut off an internet connection because the router would not handle the packets going out or coming in.
This is exactly what the "Pause" control on the Orbi app does. Immediately stop packets to/from a particular device. (Or Blocking the device in Security-> Access Control, which takes more steps but does the same thing.)
My sense is that manual control is not the desired end result. The only automated device control on the Orbi is "Block Services" which suffers from having only 1 master schedule that has to be within a single 24 hour time period. (i.e. block from 10am to 2pm works, but block from 10pn to 2am does not work).
I am SO glad not to have this issue to worry over.
- nalawa63Apr 29, 2021Tutor
As a result of this I have now returned the D7800 and will be going with another brand which provided the level of parental control I require
- schumakuApr 30, 2021Guru - Experienced User
nalawa63 wrote:As a result of this I have now returned the D7800
it's a big problem that many existing devices in the market, including models still offered (like the D7800) are completely ignored. Much worse, what used to be available tends to become inop.
nalawa63 wrote:...and will be going with another brand which provided the level of parental control I require
Would you mind to share what solution you went for? Reason asking is that xDSL offerings became a rare species.
- nalawa63Apr 30, 2021Tutor
One of the reasons I chose the D7800 was it supported VLAN ID because my ISP require this for PPPoE connection.
However, I am also moving house and have used this to now change ISP. My new ISP uses IPoE, therefore no VLAN ID and as I don't need a VOIP phone, no longer a requirement for a modem/router either as I can plug just a router into the NBN NTD for my FTTC connection.
So my solution, noting we are already a googlefied home is to go with a Google Nest Wifi mesh system which provides all the parental/access controls I want.
regards
Chris