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rozel
May 26, 2014Aspirant
Dual Band Routers - Are They An Improvement?
Hi all
I have been successfully using a WN2000RPT Wireless Extender for a few years now, extending the wireless range in my property to a remote bedroom. However the downside is that when it comes to streaming, it doesn't cut it.
My Broadband speed averages around 78Mbps down and around 19Mbps up. Ethernet-wise I am well able to stream HD movies, Blurays etc along with HD Audio.
However wireless-wise I get constant buffering. I know that there is a minimum 50% loss when extending a wireless setup like mine but I am simply not getting the speed of connection I need to play my movies. Wireless streaming is always a headache, I know that too :-)
So I have been looking at the current crop of Netgear Extenders in particular the EX6200 - would you say this is the best one?
So my router deploys a dual-band wireless setup 2.4ghz & 5ghz. This where I need some advice. When utilising the dual band capabilities of the EX6200 - does it need to pick up both channels? As I have said my bedroom is remote and doubt whether the EX6200 will pick up the 5ghz signal. A 5ghz signal only travels so far does it not?
That said if the EZ6200 receives via 2.4ghz and then I connect my device to the extender via the 5ghz channel, will that work without the 50% throughput-loss?
I am confused as to how these newer extenders work and would appreciate if someone could explain things for me. If I cannot get the 5ghz signal in the first instance will I see any benefit from my existing extender?
Many thanks
I have been successfully using a WN2000RPT Wireless Extender for a few years now, extending the wireless range in my property to a remote bedroom. However the downside is that when it comes to streaming, it doesn't cut it.
My Broadband speed averages around 78Mbps down and around 19Mbps up. Ethernet-wise I am well able to stream HD movies, Blurays etc along with HD Audio.
However wireless-wise I get constant buffering. I know that there is a minimum 50% loss when extending a wireless setup like mine but I am simply not getting the speed of connection I need to play my movies. Wireless streaming is always a headache, I know that too :-)
So I have been looking at the current crop of Netgear Extenders in particular the EX6200 - would you say this is the best one?
So my router deploys a dual-band wireless setup 2.4ghz & 5ghz. This where I need some advice. When utilising the dual band capabilities of the EX6200 - does it need to pick up both channels? As I have said my bedroom is remote and doubt whether the EX6200 will pick up the 5ghz signal. A 5ghz signal only travels so far does it not?
That said if the EZ6200 receives via 2.4ghz and then I connect my device to the extender via the 5ghz channel, will that work without the 50% throughput-loss?
I am confused as to how these newer extenders work and would appreciate if someone could explain things for me. If I cannot get the 5ghz signal in the first instance will I see any benefit from my existing extender?
Many thanks
15 Replies
- jmizoguchiVirtuosoResult should same as you would do with existing wn2000rpt
- rozelAspirantBack to square one lol!
Oh well unless someone else can reply, I wii try somewhere else. - fordemMentorAccording to the user manuals, Netgear's EX6100 & EX6200 extenders allow the use of "fast lane" technology which, if configured, will allow one band to be used for the link to the router, and the other band to be used to connect the client devices - this, in theory, will allow operation without the 50% drop in throughput. I get the impression that neither of you understands the reason for the degradation - most WiFi devices are single duplex - they can transmit and they can receive, but they cannot do so at the same time - in the case of a single band repeater (or extender) this means that the unit must receive the request from the client, transmit it to the router, then receive the response from the router and transmit it to the client - roughly half the time is spent transmitting in one direction or the other, and the other half receiving. This, by the way, is a "best case scenario" with only one client - as the number of clients increases, so does the degradation. By using "fast lane" technology - or - a second radio for the "back haul" - there is less degradation as the extender can be transmitting data to the client at the same time as it is receiving it from the router - there will still be some degradation because the radios are still half duplex, but nowhere near as much as if it were a single band repeater. So - yes - connecting an EX6200 to your router on one band and to the PS3 on the other can be expected to give better performance than you're getting now - which band should be used where for best performance will have to be determined by trial & error. http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/24662/~/what-is-fastlane-technology-and-how-to-configure-it%3F
- rozelAspirantHi
I have been away and just read your post - apologies if you thought me rude.
That is precisely the explanation I was after - I'm no expert but felt that I would get better results from a new Extender.
OK so if I'm getting 10Mbps download speed (starting from 78 Mbps at the router) now with my existing extender, could you hazard a guess as to what I could expect with a new EX6200? And would this be fast enough for Bluray/HD movies do you think?
I may take a punt :-) - fordemMentor
rozel wrote: Hi
I have been away and just read your post - apologies if you thought me rude.
That is precisely the explanation I was after - I'm no expert but felt that I would get better results from a new Extender.
OK so if I'm getting 10Mbps download speed (starting from 78 Mbps at the router) now with my existing extender, could you hazard a guess as to what I could expect with a new EX6200? And would this be fast enough for Bluray/HD movies do you think?
I may take a punt :-)
I would offer no guesses - partly because of a lack of detail - there's no mention of how those measurements are being made, what the end points are, and what's between those two end points.
I know there's a dual band router and a single band extender, which, as has been discussed WILL cause a minimum of 50% drop in throughput - you're going from 78 mbps to 10 mbps - quite a bit more than 50% - which if I assume is being measured with a laptop connecting in both cases with WiFi - would suggest that you have either significant attenuation or interference along the way.
It is my belief that most end users (and an alarming number of professionals) don't understand the importance of proper positioning of the wireless access points/routers, and the impact it has on performance.
Assuming you have a smartphone or tablet, download Netgear,s WiFi Analytics app and have a look at it - you can use it to "plot" the signal strength in the various rooms of your house - make a floor plan sketch, mark your router's position, switch off your extender and plot the strengths, and then repeat with the extender on - can you relocate the extender or router to improve anything?