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Aitku
May 21, 2021Aspirant
Force use of 2.4ghz
I am using the EX8000 to reach a summerhouse in the garden some 80 yards away. If my android phone or windows laptop are on 2.4ghz the signal reaches fine. But, they default to connecting using 5ghz a...
- May 21, 2021
Aitku wrote:
I am using the EX8000 to reach a summerhouse in the garden some 80 yards away. If my android phone or windows laptop are on 2.4ghz the signal reaches fine. But, they default to connecting using 5ghz and that doesn't reach yet they don't seem to automatically switch to 2.4ghz. What's the best and easiest way to switch them to 2.4ghz so I get a reliable signal there please?Do I understand correctly that the summerhouse is 80 yards away from the EX8000?
(i.e. the EX8000 is not located in the summerhouse)
My phone often does not switch automatically so I open the phone Network controls, turn WiFi off and back on again, and it connects.
Can you try that?
CrimpOn
May 21, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Aitku wrote:
I am using the EX8000 to reach a summerhouse in the garden some 80 yards away. If my android phone or windows laptop are on 2.4ghz the signal reaches fine. But, they default to connecting using 5ghz and that doesn't reach yet they don't seem to automatically switch to 2.4ghz. What's the best and easiest way to switch them to 2.4ghz so I get a reliable signal there please?
Do I understand correctly that the summerhouse is 80 yards away from the EX8000?
(i.e. the EX8000 is not located in the summerhouse)
My phone often does not switch automatically so I open the phone Network controls, turn WiFi off and back on again, and it connects.
Can you try that?
- AitkuMay 22, 2021Aspirant
Thanks. I've tried switching off and back on the wi-fi on my phone and that does switch it to 2.4ghz. Thanks. Your other comment is right - the AC3000 is at the nearest point in the house and uses the 5ghz backhaul to the main router. I might try moving it to the summerhouse and see whether it can reach the router.
- michaelkenwardMay 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
CrimpOn wrote:
My phone often does not switch automatically so I open the phone Network controls, turn WiFi off and back on again, and it connects.
Can you try that?
That is certainly is a better strategy.
It really is up to the phone to detect the correct wifi band. It is not something that you should have to do with the wifi source.
- CrimpOnMay 22, 2021Guru - Experienced User
I should point out that the phone is not "selecting 2.4G". It is looking at the list of WiFi access point SSID's that it can find and that it has been told to "connect automatically". The Orbi 5G WiFi signal is too low to be usable (may not even be detected), so it selects the only usable signal, which is the 2.4G one. It is actually amazing that the 2.4G signal is usable at 80 yards. Depending on the exterior wall construction, it might be worth experimenting with placing the EX8000 in a widow.
If there is a need for greater bandwidth in the summerhouse, there are only two solutions:
- Install an ethernet cable to the summerhouse. Ethernet is rated to do gigabit at 90 meters, and will certainly do 100mb.
While the ethernet cable is not all that expensive, installation can be a challenge (and expensive). - Install a pair of WiFi bridge devices. Ubiquiti nanostation has been mentioned in several posts, and there are less expensive "no-name" brands on Amazon that get good reviews.
- alokeprasadMay 23, 2021Mentor
CrimpOn wrote:I should point out that the phone is not "selecting 2.4G". It is looking at the list of WiFi access point SSID's that it can find and that it has been told to "connect automatically".
Trying to understand the methodology in a more general sense.
What does the phone do when it sees one SSID that the Orbi is broadcasting for use with 2.4 and 5 GHz frequencies?
How does the phone decide at any/every point in time:
- which freq to use
- which satellite to connect to
Does the phone choose whichever is the "strongest" at that location that the phone is currently at?
As the phone moves around, does it stay with that frequency? Does it re-evaluate the strength if the strength drops below a threshold?
Any good web site that delves into how "mesh" systems work?
- Install an ethernet cable to the summerhouse. Ethernet is rated to do gigabit at 90 meters, and will certainly do 100mb.