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Nakiami
May 10, 2022Guide
Nighthawk X6 (EX7700) cannot extend AX1800 (EAX20-100AUS) network
Hi, I'm having trouble extending the network created by my EAX20 using my EX7700. This is what I'm trying to achieve: Router Wifi ---> EAX20 ---> EX7700 (SSID1) ---> (SSID2) ---> (SSID3) ...
- May 10, 2022
A couple things.
1. daisy chaining extenders is a poor choice. Especially mesh extenders as there's nothing telling them to connect to the router or to a different extender and it can create instabilities.
2. I'd go router---ex7700-----eax20. Reason why is a standard dual band extender looses 50% throughput speed because it has to uses the same wireless chip to go router---extender and then extender----device. And it can't do both at once. The tribands use one of the 5ghz bands just for router----extender communication so they don't take that same 50% speed hit. And they have lower latency.
That 50% speed hit, the increased latency, and the decreased stability because the extenders don't know which signal to connect to (router or other extender) is usually why we don't recommend daisy chaining them. Especially in extender mode.
If you're going to do so, follow this.
1. setup the ex7700 to the router. During setup, uncheck the "extend 2.4ghz" signal button. You'll still be able to use 2.4ghz but it won't use it as failover. It'll rely entirely on the 5ghz backhaul
2. if the extenders are to close to each other and the router, thats where the connection issues come it. When they're setup in a mesh, they just connect to the ssid they're told to connect to. And if the ssid is the same (mesh), it doesn't know if it should be connecting to the router or t he extender. So make sure to have them much further away. If you have to set them up in daisy chained mode and using the same ssid (mesh), you'll want the 2nd extender far enough away from the router that it can't see it. It should only be able to pickup the first extenders ssid
3. I'd highly recommend setting them up in a star topology configuration. And the extenders far enough away from each other that they can only see the routers ssid and not each others.
4. if none of that works, then disable the mesh and use the ex7700 with its own ssid with it in the middle of the chain. You can go router----ex7700----eax20 that way the eax20 KNOWS it has to connect to the ex7700 because its ssid is unique.
We don't recommend daisy chaining extenders and I usually don't recommend using 2 extenders at all. If someones needing more than 1 extender, I usually advise them to moving to a mesh system so there's something controlling the system and connections. And if they're needing daisy chained, I'd highly recommend the triband mesh systems.
plemans
May 10, 2022Guru - Experienced User
A couple things.
1. daisy chaining extenders is a poor choice. Especially mesh extenders as there's nothing telling them to connect to the router or to a different extender and it can create instabilities.
2. I'd go router---ex7700-----eax20. Reason why is a standard dual band extender looses 50% throughput speed because it has to uses the same wireless chip to go router---extender and then extender----device. And it can't do both at once. The tribands use one of the 5ghz bands just for router----extender communication so they don't take that same 50% speed hit. And they have lower latency.
That 50% speed hit, the increased latency, and the decreased stability because the extenders don't know which signal to connect to (router or other extender) is usually why we don't recommend daisy chaining them. Especially in extender mode.
If you're going to do so, follow this.
1. setup the ex7700 to the router. During setup, uncheck the "extend 2.4ghz" signal button. You'll still be able to use 2.4ghz but it won't use it as failover. It'll rely entirely on the 5ghz backhaul
2. if the extenders are to close to each other and the router, thats where the connection issues come it. When they're setup in a mesh, they just connect to the ssid they're told to connect to. And if the ssid is the same (mesh), it doesn't know if it should be connecting to the router or t he extender. So make sure to have them much further away. If you have to set them up in daisy chained mode and using the same ssid (mesh), you'll want the 2nd extender far enough away from the router that it can't see it. It should only be able to pickup the first extenders ssid
3. I'd highly recommend setting them up in a star topology configuration. And the extenders far enough away from each other that they can only see the routers ssid and not each others.
4. if none of that works, then disable the mesh and use the ex7700 with its own ssid with it in the middle of the chain. You can go router----ex7700----eax20 that way the eax20 KNOWS it has to connect to the ex7700 because its ssid is unique.
We don't recommend daisy chaining extenders and I usually don't recommend using 2 extenders at all. If someones needing more than 1 extender, I usually advise them to moving to a mesh system so there's something controlling the system and connections. And if they're needing daisy chained, I'd highly recommend the triband mesh systems.
- NakiamiMay 11, 2022Guide
Thanks for that. Good point about the triband. I'm not using "mesh" - they all have their own SSID. The loss of bandwidth and latency on the second node doesn't matter much to me since it is very low traffic.
My current setup is now
Router --- EX7700 --- EAX20
and it seems to work fine. Still unsure why the EX7700 refused to connect to the EAX20 but the EAX20 can connect to the EX7700.
I was told on the phone by netgear support that it isn't possible at all to daisy chain, which seems to be not true in this case.
Thanks again
- plemansMay 11, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Possible yes.
Recommended, no