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I currently have a RangeMax N150 WPN824N that is supposed to give me up to 150Mbps. On a wired connection nit does. But not wireless where I average 68Mbps. But it varies. I have a Samsing LED TV wit...
Hi krazybob
No point to be made.U R Most Welcome.
Just trying to pool knowledge to assist in getting the best out of your networking situation.
I think I see your point. Let's see if I've got this right and add more knowledge to your years of knowledge!Quote " I will only repeat the the theorhetical maximun speed of 802.11 n is 600Mbps"
The 802.11n is a specification/standard with different manufactures and models meeting the N spec range i.e. (54 - 600Mbps)."802.11n operates on both the 2.4 GHz and the 5 GHz bands. Support for 5 GHz bands is optional. It operates at a maximum net data rate from 54 Mbit/s to 600 Mbit/s. The IEEE has approved the amendment, and it was published in October 2009".
The N model of the router is and indicator to be devided by 2 (1 for each band, 2.4Hz and 5GHz respectively) to give you the rate at which data will move across
wifi to (speed capable) devices/clients you connect to your network.
I have Netgear WNDR4500v2 it is a N900 class router. (The D in the model number means this router will operate both bands at the same time).
900 devided by 2 = 450 which means I will get in theory up to 450 Mbps Data Transfer Rate across both bands.
Your's is the RangeMax N150
So your Data rate in theory will max would be 150 divided by 2 = 75Mbps Data Transfer Rate
This explains your "no more than 65Mbps on a good day".
Even with a Wifi card that can handle 300Mbps.
The R7000 in theory will give you 700Mbps
Runing around 600+13000Mbps
The Orbi is 3Gbps Clearly way more speed.
How well these two models perform I can't say as I have no experience with them... but one day... perhaps:smileyvery-happy:
Hope this helps
RSlack
Hi krazybob:
In reading this post... Maybe a interjection here would help.
On wireless you can only go as fast as the wireless device is capable of receivng. In your equipment case.
-Charter/Spectrum 100/20 internet (which is good! I have Charter and get 60/5)
-RangeMax 150
( I think the RangeMax puts out 13 - 20Mbps Wireless) I could be wrong on that.
So let's just say RangeMax could put out 150 Mbps over wireless.
Now the speed you get will also depends on the speed at which the device can receive.
In this Example:
1. Cell Phone rated at 54Mbps - Cell phone will report 54Mbps becasue it is all the Cell Phone can receive.
2. Streaming device rated at 85Mbs - Streaming device will report 85Mbps because it is all the Streaming device can receive.
3. AppleTV 4th Gen rated at 300Mbps (Wireless 5G)
AppleTV 4th Gen with RangeMax - AppTv 4th Gen will report 150Mbps because it is all the RangeMax can deliver (per this example),
although AppleTv can receive 300Mbps, if the router will put that amount of wireless speed.
(Say an N900 router will put out 450Mbps over Wireless) then The AppleTv will report 300Mbps.
Also keep in mind as stated earlier in this discussion, the distance/location and barriers between the device and router can affect signal and speed.
Hope this helps
RSlack
Any of the r7000 and above should do the job just keep mind what may be the next internet speed you may update too in future a 1gb port should be enough to hold you for the foreseeable future.
Thank you but an R7000 is way overkill. I can handle 65Mbps to my laptop or cellp phone.
My issue is more the crappy performance of the Samnsung 50" LCD Smart TV that can't manage 1.5Mbps in the same room as the laptop getting 65Mbps. I like to watch Youtube video's and it buffers... "Loading...": and then times out. That's more an issue with Samsung but they won't admit it. It has been suggested that I buy an external Chromecast device. You should have heard the phone calls with Samsung and Google each blaming one another to the point of denying that the TV even has Chromecast. "It's a software isssue. Let me transfer you to Google..." "It's a hardware issue. Let me transfer yoou to Samsung..." I would run a hard line but I have no guarantee that will solve the problem. Is it that I am running DHCP? I have a spare static IP. Should I installk Orbit? That's just a bit more than an R7000 at $179.
Are you sure your Samsung has Chromecast built in? It's not listed as a supported brand by Google (link). What's the model of your TV?
DHCP should not be an issue, but you can always try a static IP to eliminate one more variable. A wired connection would also eliminate another variable. You can temporarily set up a wired connection for testing purposes. Otherwise, consider getting an external streamer (Chromecast, Amazon Fire TV, Roku, etc.). I have a older Samsung TV and it's simply terrible at streaming.
LOL. Sorry but I have to laugh. Yes, it has built-in WI-FI and Chromecast. I use it all the time. But it is slow. As I wrote it stopped working. After Samsung pushed an OS upgrade to my PHONE it began working again but still slow.
The Orbi router is a possible answer if willing to spend the money for it but people have paid the same amount or more for the latest Netgear super routers only you can make the final choice and a wired connection to the tv would be the best solution as it bypasses all the wifi issues that could affect the connection over wifi.
Have ever check to see if the tv has a firmware update that needs to be install.
Hi krazybob
IMHO lots of things are in the air that need to be narrowed down further.
I agree with TheEther
-A temp wired connect is a good places to start as most TV/networked devices run 100Mbps.
A wired connection will eliminate Channel conflicts.
100Mbps Data Transfer Rate is faster than 65Mbps which you are getting on the Laptop.
The Data Transfer Rate of the WiFi on the Samsung is unknown at this point going wired might pull in 50-65Mbps.
-DHCP avoids ip Conficts and should not be a problem.
I concurr with William10a
-The final choice will have to be yours.
Just a thought on the R7000 as "way overkill" is again IMHO, relative, as "what is fast today might be slow tomorrow"
and the R7000 could future-proof you for a few years.
-If you have not updated the firmware on the TV it would be a good idea to do so.
Note: I would first check the firmware version to see if there are a lot of complaints about it or things stop working.
The Wireless on the TV is the unkown factor once you find out it's DTF (Data Transfer Rate) it would help in moving forward.
FYI the:
-Dell Wireless 1397 802.11g Mini-Card... DTF is 54Mbps g networks
-Dell Wireless 1520 Wireless-N Mini-Card... DTF is 300Mbps a,g,n networksAnother Unknown factor is... WiFi channel conflict, as you may know.
WiFi channels are sort of like traffic lanes, other Wifi Networks near to you could be crossing into your channel lanes
which can slow down your network and cause issues, (a wired connection eliminates this).
The standard lanes/channels for 2.4GHz are 1, 6 & 11 and most WiFi TV's and devices work on 2.4GHz.
You might try changing your WiFi Channel on the router to see if this will help.
The standard lanes/channels for 5Ghz ar far more, starting with Channel 36 and goining up - 165
far less crowded "Everybody and their Grand Ma are on 2.4GHz!".
Micro Wave Ovens can interfer, and home cordless telepohnes as some at work on 2.4GHz.
I think 15-20 ft from a Micro and Phone should do the trick.
Hope this is of help.
RSlack
As a well experienced user I agree with everything you said. I will only repeat that the theorhetical maximum speed of 802.11n is 600Mbps. You are correct that the Dell 1520 is only 300Mbps but I'm not getting it!
I know that 2.4gHz is well used. I live at 6,300 feet above southern California and it is called "pilot noise." I used to work in the cellphone repair and installation business and worked for PACTEL (renamed now) and did area surveys of performance. I can try chaning channels but I don't expect that it will help. Too many people have 2.4GHz. I could switch to 5GHz but my girlfriends house only hase 2.4GHz.
My home phones are on 900MHz deliberately. As an Extra Class Amasteur Radio Operator radio isn't new to me. As the owner of a hosting company that has built his own networks for years IP's aren't. But when it comes to Netgear consumer grade products I'll admit that there is much I don't know. I can try a R7000 but would rather spend the extra money and put an Orbi cell in the room with the TV. Unless you are telling me that the R7000 routers are using multiple mbands for backhaul like the Orbi it seems to be more advanced than the R7000.
Have I inadvertently missed a point you are making? I appreciate your effort.
