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google1901
Jul 04, 2023Aspirant
BT (UK) landlines migration to Digital Voice supporedt by Netgear?
I'm just hearing our UK landline will transition to Digital Voice sometime (this year). Support for current phone handset is a direct connection on back of BT router (smarthub2). But they offer a Dig...
michaelkenward
Jul 06, 2023Guru - Experienced User
FURRYe38 wrote:
If your ISP Modem already has a built in router and wifi. This would be a double NAT (two router) condition which isn't recommended.
Methinks that google1901 will be utterly baffled by this bit of boilerplate. That they have already worked out how to get rid of BT's nasty hardware shows that they are well beyond this stage.
I step in only to warn them that it almost certainly has little, or nothing to do with their request for advice on how to get BT's new Digital Voice phone system to work with a Netgear router.
CrimpOn has gone over some of the issues. But anyone interested in investigating the true nature of BT's crimes against humanity might like to read this:
Digital Voice | Digital Home Phone | BT
The question is about using this technology without being forced to connect via BT's famously horrible hardware. (Way back when it was, literally, a part of the ministry of communications, its predecessor loved inventing unique technology that no one else in the world adopted, a habit that seems to persist.)
We will need to know how the promised DECT adapter will work with third party hardware.
There's a lot of chatter out there about this technology. One post confidently asserts:
The website Broadband News is a well informed source of information. This post talks about the kit that BT supplies, which offer a few clues. But I suspect that google1901 has already been down that road.
What kit BT offers as part of its Digital Voice Migration | thinkbroadband
Somehow, I can't see Netgear experimenting with BT's new system. Happy to join in of they do want guinea pigs.
google1901
Jul 07, 2023Aspirant
My thanks to @FURRYe38 I'll check out the website you mentioned. This is just the start where I'm heading. Regardless of eventual outcome, once digital voice is upon us, I'll not have anything to do with BT smarthub2 router. Thanks for the input.
- FURRYe38Jul 07, 2023Guru - Experienced User
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- Bubbles61Jul 08, 2023TutorI would suggest that Ofcom might be interested in this apparent monopoly of VoIP for BT customers. A complaint would be recommended. Competition is healthy and this seems like restrictive practice at work.
- michaelkenwardJul 08, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Bubbles61 wrote:
I would suggest that Ofcom might be interested in this apparent monopoly of VoIP for BT customers. A complaint would be recommended. Competition is healthy and this seems like restrictive practice at work.That had occurred to me. Sadly, the UK's regulators have an appalling record. But still worth trying.
BT OpenReach has already imposed a surreptitious hardware monopoly by insisting that ISPs supply customers with combined modem/router devices. (I got that from an experienced BT engineer when they were trying to fix my line.)
It may be a coincidence, or the gradual decline of DSL, but it was around then that Netgear and other brands abandoned the DSL modem market.
If BT piles its own hardware on to the the VoIP sector, then we can expect to see another decline in then brands of network hardware out there. The UK is just too small to make it worth fighting for. And we no longer have the EU to insist on decent consumer protection.