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IKraus
Jul 18, 2018Aspirant
Cannot do firmware update - R6120
Ever since our purchase of this device, we have never been able to log into the router. We have contacted you on 2 previous occasions mentioning this, but - as the problem at the time mainly related ...
- Jul 22, 2018
Excellent news. Worth knowing that reset can take several attempts before it stocks.
IKraus wrote:
So, password's now been re-set, secret questions re-set and notes taken on all the above.
I just turn off password recovery. My passwords and stuff aren't obvious, certainly not Netgear's defaults, and Smersh isn't likely to attack me.
michaelkenward
Jul 18, 2018Guru - Experienced User
IKraus wrote:
Ever since our purchase of this device, we have never been able to log into the router.
How are you trying to get at the router? Wired link from a PC? (The best option.) Using a browser or the desktop genie? Wifi from a mobile device? Mobile genie app?
What happens when you try to login with whichever device you are using?
....every combination of default login info possible (all lower-case, all upper-case, capitolized, etc.); nothing has worked.
"Nothing has worked" could mean many things. What happens when you try? (See above.)
Remember the wifi password is not the same as the router access password.
Finally, what modem sits in front of this router? That can be one reason why you cannot access the thing.
- IKrausJul 18, 2018Aspirant
Me > Ever since our purchase of this device, we have never been able to log into the router.
Mike > How are you trying to get at the router? Wired link from a PC? (The best option.) Using a browser or the desktop genie? Wifi from a mobile device? Mobile genie app?
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Usually thru a wired link from connected PC running Win 10 Pro, latest version. Have tried both browser and Netgear Genie. Just installed the Genie on my laptop that connects via WiFi, still no luck with logging. In an attempt to log in by browser, I get as far as it asking me to reply to secret questions. No clue as to what those are supposed to be either.
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What happens when you try to login with whichever device you are using?
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see above
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me > ....every combination of default login info possible (all lower-case, all upper-case, capitolized, etc.); nothing has worked.
Mike > "Nothing has worked" could mean many things. What happens when you try? (See above.)
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see above.... If connecting by browser on either PC it will eventually take me to what I think is a password recovery or reset screen. Don't know answers to questions asked. (Asks for name of 1st school & mother's middle name) Have tried using info from both myself and my husband, but, again cannot get in.
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Mike > Remember the wifi password is not the same as the router access password.
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Quite aware of this.
Mike > Finally, what modem sits in front of this router? That can be one reason why you cannot access the thing.
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Whatever one that's been provided by our cable company here in Erie County OH (Buckeye Cablevision). It not only does the Internet but does our home phone. This one is at least a year old (older than router) and we have wondered if it needs replacing too.
- antinodeJul 18, 2018Guru
> [...] what modem sits in front of this router? That can be one reason
> why you cannot access the thing.
What possible effect could it have?
> [...] Have tried both browser and Netgear Genie. [...]
I'd stick with a web browser. (Less unreliable Netgear software that
way.)
The usual remedy for a lost password is a settings reset (and manual
reconfiguration). Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model
number, and look for Documentation. Get the User Manual. Look for
"Factory Settings".- IKrausJul 18, 2018Aspirant
antinode wrote:
> [...] what modem sits in front of this router? That can be one reason
> why you cannot access the thing.
What possible effect could it have?
> [...] Have tried both browser and Netgear Genie. [...]
I'd stick with a web browser. (Less unreliable Netgear software that
way.)
The usual remedy for a lost password is a settings reset (and manual
reconfiguration). Visit http://netgear.com/support , put in your model
number, and look for Documentation. Get the User Manual. Look for
"Factory Settings".Okay, user guide dosen't say what factory defaults are for secret security questions. Nor does hitting the reset button on the router change anything as you'll eventually hit that "enter the answer to these questions" screen. Have tried every combo I can think of to answer those, using either my data or my husbands, plus mixtures of all lower-case, upper-case, 1st letter capitolized and nothing works. So, as I said at the start of this, I can't login no matter what I've tried....
- michaelkenwardJul 18, 2018Guru - Experienced User
IKraus wrote:
Finally, what modem sits in front of this router? That can be one reason why you cannot access the thing.-- new reply ----
Whatever one that's been provided by our cable company here in Erie County OH (Buckeye Cablevision). It not only does the Internet but does our home phone.
Those "gateway" devices can be a problem. They may also masquerade as routers, which means that you can have a pair of routers on the network. That way madness lies.
That's why I asked about it.
Any reason why you can't tell us what it is? After all, a network is a chain of stuff. All the bits have to work together. So you can't troubleshoot one item in isolation.
I have other thoughts, especially on the "secret questions" thing, and it has nothing to do with a factory reset, but you seem to have garnered the attention of he who knows everything, so I'll leave it fester for the time being.
- antinodeJul 19, 2018Guru
> Those "gateway" devices can be a problem. [...]
They can affect the Internet connection. I (still) fail to see how a
modem and/or router on the WAN/Internet side of the router in question
can affect access to the user interface on that router.
> I have other thoughts, [...]
Yow. Among grown-ups, I would not have thought that no answer plus a
childish insult would be an appropriate response to a simple question.
> [...] user guide dosen't say what factory defaults are for secret
> security questions. Nor does hitting the reset button on the router
> change anything as you'll eventually hit that "enter the answer to these
> questions" screen. [...]
How, exactly, did you "hit the reset button"? How, exactly, did the
router respond? I'd expect a (successful) settings reset to restore the
default "admin" password ("password"), and to clear any password
recovery settings. If the router does not respond as expected to a
proper reset request, then you might try it again, with nothing
connected to the router (except its power adapter).
Then, a better description of what you did than "you'll eventually
hit" might be helpful.
> [...] I can't login no matter what I've tried....
With my weak psychic powers, I have very little idea what you've
tried, or what happened when you tried it/them.