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favemuppet
Mar 13, 2021Aspirant
EX6120 Extender WPS LIght
Can someone give me an affirmative answer please as I have seen many conflicting.... Once my EX6120 extender has been connected to my Sky Router (set up via web browser), should the WPS light be so...
antinode
Mar 13, 2021Guru
> Conflicting views are techies on a Facebook group (yes I know what you
> are going to say) [...]
What I'd say say is that even if you had supplied helpful links to
any of that stuff, I likely wouldn't put much time+effort into reading
stuff on Facebook, and I'd rather rub sand into my eyes than watch a
typical "technical" movie on YouTube. "implying"?
> The behaviour I have seen is that it blinks during the connection
> process, but NEVER goes solid.
But the connection succeeds?
Defects in Netgear documentation and/or firmware are not especially
unusual, sad to say.
favemuppet
Mar 13, 2021Aspirant
So are you saying that the fact that the WPS light is off doesn’t matter? That as long as I need a password to link a device to the extender, it will have the same security settings as the router?
If so, please link your source for confirmation of that.
Surely If defects in Netgear documentation and firmware is not unusual, does that not point to the fact the brand is unreliable? In which case, why should I spend my money on their equipment?
If so, please link your source for confirmation of that.
Surely If defects in Netgear documentation and firmware is not unusual, does that not point to the fact the brand is unreliable? In which case, why should I spend my money on their equipment?
- antinodeMar 13, 2021Guru
> So are you saying that the fact that the WPS light is off doesn't
> matter? [...]That's my belief. The whole idea of WPS is to allow a user to make a
wireless connection, even if he can't (or prefers not to) supply the
passphrase, _if_ he has control over the router. That is, if he can
press the WPS button (or provide a PIN).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup
> [...] That as long as I need a password to link a device to the
> extender, it will have the same security settings as the router?Define "the same security settings". As I read the User Manual, you
should be able to play with the extender's SSID(s) and passphrase(s).> If so, please link your source for confirmation of that.
Why trust me (or Netgear, or anyone/anything)? I'd run the
experiment. Can you get a WPS-reliant client device connected without
pressing the WPS button? Can you get a non-WPS-using client device
connected without supplying the proper passphrase?> Surely If defects in Netgear documentation and firmware is not
> unusual, does that not point to the fact the brand is unreliable?
> [...]You can rely on their imperfection.
> [...] In which case, why should I spend my money on their equipment?
Hey. It wasn't my idea. If you can find a better combination of
attributes elsewhere, then I'd use the Ayn Rand criterion, and get the
best thing (in my judgement) which I could find/afford to maximize my
happiness.- favemuppetMar 14, 2021Aspirant
Thank you for your time on this. Apologies if I appear thick but I am simply trying to understand,
antinode wrote:
That's my belief. The whole idea of WPS is to allow a user to make a
wireless connection, even if he can't (or prefers not to) supply the
passphrase, _if_ he has control over the router. That is, if he can
press the WPS button (or provide a PIN).OK. You say it is your "belief", which is not the same as it being factual, Your belief may well be wrong. And I was after the facts.
Define "the same security settings". As I read the User Manual, you
should be able to play with the extender's SSID(s) and passphrase(s).The router is set up for WPA2-PSK(AES). If I connect a device, I am comforted in the knowledge that whatever I do with that device can not be seen by the outside world, and also that an outsider cannot join my network without a password etc...
When i connect an extender to that router, does the extender now have the same WPA2-PSK(AES) security settings as the router to which it is linked, and thus, when I connect a device to it I can be equally as comfortable? This is important because the user manual states (and this is the crux of my problem), that if the WPS light on the extender is off this means, and I quote, "WIFI SECURITY IS NOT ENABLED". That says to me, unless I am mistaken, that an outsider can potentially join my network easier via the extender, than they could via the router.
It is that phrase "WI-FI SECURITY IS NOT ENABLED" which concerns me,
Why trust me (or Netgear, or anyone/anything)? I'd run the
experiment. Can you get a WPS-reliant client device connected without
pressing the WPS button? Can you get a non-WPS-using client device
connected without supplying the proper passphrase?The only devices I have with a WPS button are the router and the extender. I don't have a PC, only mobiles and tablets, All need a password to connect to the router and extender.
- antinodeMar 14, 2021Guru
> [...] Your belief may well be wrong. [...]
Which part of "I'd run the experiment." did you find confusing?
> When i connect an extender to that router, does the extender now have
> the same WPA2-PSK(AES) security settings as the router to which it is
> linked, and thus, when I connect a device to it I can be equally as
> comfortable?If the extender is connected to the router wirelessly, then the
extender-router link must be using the security scheme demanded by the
router.If you connect a client device to the extender, then you should be
able to ask the device which security scheme it's using for that link.> [...] if the WPS light on the extender is off this means, and I quote,
> "WIFI SECURITY IS NOT ENABLED". [...]
Read it again? What I see (Page 7, Table 1) is:Off. WPS security is not enabled
"WIFI" and "WPS" are spelled differently for a reason.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Protected_Setup> It is that phrase "WI-FI SECURITY IS NOT ENABLED" which concerns me,
It might concern me, too, if I saw it in the User Manual, and not
only in your "quotation".> The only devices I have with a WPS button are the router and the
> extender. [...]So, you can trust the Manual (and/or me), or get hold of a
WPS-capable client device to run a test.
> [...] All need a password to connect to the router and extender.Well, there you go. You don't really need me after all. (Except,
perhaps, for help with reading comprehension.)