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HoTo
Jun 27, 2016Aspirant
Frequent ping spikes on wifi
Hello, I'm getting a lot of spikes when trying to ping my router, on wifi. Without an usb adapter, I'm getting about 5 replies in a row with over 100ms very often, before it goes down to < 1 again......
- May 12, 2021
There are two parts of a VPN connection:
- The VPN "client" which attempts to open a VPN "tunnel" into a host so that all traffic between the client and host are encrypted and thus protected from being observed along the path.
- The VPN "host" which waits for devices to connect.
The OpenVPN that is included in Netgear routers is an OpenVPN host, not a client. The purpose is to allow the router administrator to connect to the router when not connected to the local network. I have OpenVPN configured on two Orbi routers so that I can connect to them and manage them remotely.
NordVPN's host is at various locations in the world. Customers install a NordVPN client on their local computer(s) so that they can connect to the NordVPN in a secure manner and then connect to other internet locations and appear to be coming from Nord. Nord hides their true location.
There is no problem doing both at the same time. A computer in the local network can install the NordVPN client and open a VPN tunnel to Nord at the same time as the Orbi router's OpenVPN host is waiting for a connection from the internet. You devices that are running NordVPN cannot detect that OpenVPN is running on the Orbi. Likewise, the Orbi cannot detect that your device is running NordVPN.
People often want to have their WiFi Router act as a VPN client and have every device on the local network pass through a single VPN tunnel for secure and anonymous access to the internet. Netgear routers do not support becomming a VPN client to do this. There are routers which can do this. Nord mentions several in their web pages. There is even a third party firmware for the Orbi RBR50 (only that model, not on the RBR20) which can act as either an OpenVPN client or as a Wireguard client. But Netgear routers running Netgear firmware cannot become VPN Clients.
Will VPN make a Netgear router more secure? No. As it is, the Netgear router will not accept any connection from the interent. It cannot be "taken over" from the internet.
Hope this helps.
VE6CGX
Jun 30, 2016Master
Ping spikes pinging own router is hard to believe. Which band? Do you use any WiFi analyzer utility such as inSSIDer or Acrylic?
If not, download one and running this to survey your neighborhood WiFi situation, try to select best channel with minimal interference.
Also read your own wireless signal strength in dbm. (The higher the number the weaker the signal) Ideally this number should be 60
and less. Higher than 60 means signal is getting too weak causing drop in speed affecting signal quality. Ping time is not the only factor determining connection quality(issues). What speed you supposes to get from your ISP? Is it always consistent throughout the day and week, I mean always. Isn't there and ups and downs fluctuation at certain times?
HoTo
Jun 30, 2016Aspirant
Well, I assume the Netgear Genie is giving me proper numbers, and i also assume the 2-3 networks that occasionally pops up shouldnt affect it too much. Yes I've tried different channels where the network is alone. Signal is about -40 if I'm sitting right besides the router, and about -60 5 meters away, where I need the high quality. Not sure if you read my opening post, but here it is again... "ISP is providing me with a 60Mb/s network, and tells me the signal is good, with no problems. I've even had them replace the modem they've provided me with."
"Ping spikes pinging own router is hard to believe." I'm asking the router how long it takes for it to reply with a package. I'm also talking about pinging with that request being close to the only thing happening in that network... The same delay is noticable when I'm doing whatever requires the high speed... Sir, these spikes should not be too hard to believe.
Butyea I'm getting the high speed i require by being the only one on the network, and using the USB Adapter's Wifi 2, NETGEAR72. No other combinations are useable, but at least that one is good. I don't expect anyone to have a magical solution that would make this router perform better, anyways thanks for the suggestion guys. But if someone knows if the Airtime Fairness could be disabled, I would like to hear about it. I might try downgrading the firmwire version again.
- AnonymousJun 30, 2016
-40 is a problem suggest you solve that problem 1st I'm sitting 20 ft from my r7000 with -29 2.4 and -31 5g
- VE6CGXJun 30, 2016Master
I agree. 40 seems to indicate something is not right with the router or whatever WiFi card it must be pretty cheap one. Secifically what model WiFi card is it? Pinging router does not involve modem... My Intel AC7260 card in the ASUS ROG laptop I use gives 17 and 21dbm ~3 ft. away . Ping time to router is 1ms. How about playing with the position of router? turning it 90 deg. CC or CCW. My ping time where I am to www.yahoo.com is ~75ms.
- HoToJun 30, 2016Aspirant
Oh, really -60 is considered too bad? And you're able toget -30~ 20 ft away?! Interesting... Well, placing the router in an open space with my computer right besides it, I can get it down to as low as -28, but doesnt take many steps away before we're back up at like 40, then 45, then 50, 55... VE6CGX, I'm also on a Asus ROG with Intel AC7260 actually! Could quality of modem also affect router signal?
- VE6CGXJun 30, 2016Master
Actually our home theater is located at downstairs family room. Using 5GHz band on channel 149/153 signal strength is barely ~60dbm. WiFi card is old Bigfoot Killer -N card(was best gaming card before the days of -AC mode) on an older MSI A10 based gaming laptop. Never have problems real time streaming. (otherwise wife will get really mad at me, LOL!) I don't think you did not mention what is your ISP given download/upload speed. If your ISP allows your own modem, you can try something else if you wish. Is the modem just free standig cable modem or DSL type? Oh, my router is located at loft upstairs. Router is facing family room broad-sided. And how did you configure the wireless on 5GHz. What channel did you select? Using WPA2 protocol? How did you set the speed? And there is some advanced setting on that WiFi card as well. Using latest driver for it?
- AnonymousJul 01, 2016
my ping to yahoo is 35
- HoToJul 01, 2016Aspirant
WPA2-PSK [AES], currently 72: channel 11, 145Mbps, 5G: channel 44, 289Mbps. Both being alone on that channel. Switching the modes doesn't seem to change anything. 60 Mbit/s up, 20 Mbit/s down. Modem: Cisco EPC3010. To be honest I think I would try another router (Asus RT-AC66U) before I'd try a new modem.
- VE6CGXJul 01, 2016Master
My R7800 wireless setting is 2.4GHz upto 800, channel 1, 5GHz upto 1733 channel 151. ( I always get better signal on higher channels)
Setting at max speed you can bond two channels(primary plus secondary) giving wider band width to take advantage of faster mode like -AC.
On 2.4GHz 1 and 5, on GHz 151 and 53.