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How to avoid subnet with JWNR2010v5
hello, I have now read countless threads about this, but this seems to not work whatever I do. I have bought a JWNR2010v5 and I would like to use it as a second access point to extend my wireless ...
downgraded firmware to v54 -- everything works as expected now!
the 403 Forbidden bug was quite annoying and, I guess, was what made me stray from the suggested steps in the tutorial.
> That's to be expected. On the models/versions which offer the
> one-step WAP option, using DHCP is the default ("Get dynamically from
> existing router"). With the ad-hoc scheme, you need to assign its LAN
> interface a static IP address, which is the primary complicating factor
> in that procedure.
I guess that is the problem.
my main router creates a classic LAN subnet on 192.168.1.0/24.
if I connect the Netgear to my main router (WAN port), then the Netgear will get an IP through DHCP (e.g. 192.168.1.100) and will prevent me from setting a non-DHCP static IP address for it, for example 192.168.1.253, since its LAN address and WAN address are overlapping.
in other guides I've read that there might be a prompt warning about the overlap, and to just click through it, but in my case the prompt is a blocking error and the settings are not changed.
so I guess I have to first set this up without connecting to the main router, and I'm pretty sure I did that in my several tries.
I've set a static IP for the Netgear at 192.168.1.253.
still, even after a reboot, I do not see the Netgear in my main router's devices list.
at the same time, I cannot connect to my Netgear at 192.168.1.253:8080 (which is the default Remote Management port to get the web dashboard from outside of the Netgear's net).
this tells me that the Netgear does not reserve the IP I've chosen for it, just like it wouldn't ask for it if I let DHCP settings on and connected the main router to the LAN, not WAN port.
I have a feeling that the DHCP vs static IP address settings in the "WAN" settings of the Netgear do just that, that is, reflect on the WAN port only.
no WAN port cable? no point in setting those up.
you connect the LAN cable only? then the wired clients are physically switched into the same net, but the wireless clients have a poorly designed Netgear box doing nothing for them since it seems an empty WAN port and probably gets stuck because of that.
still, as I was saying, I've read countless threads of people doing just this (AP mode on JWNR2010v5) so I'm sure someone will know whether this is feasible or not.
> Ask a client device what it's using? I know nothing, but I wouldn't
> be amazed if it intercepted DNS requests, and then mishandled them.
I'm not even sure, because clients will not get an IP, and I don't think they will get a DNS.
I will definitely try again, but this feels impossible with the advanced panel I've seen so far.
:(
> I guess that is the problem.
_What_ is? The fact that you need to follow the procedure provided,
and not just improvise some stuff which "feels" good?
> my main router creates a classic LAN subnet on 192.168.1.0/24.
Expected.
> if I connect the Netgear to my main router (WAN port), [...]
Huh? An Ethernet cable has two ends. What, exactly, are you
connecting to what, exactly? (Hint: If a device has different types of
Ethernet ports, then "connected to device" is not enough detail.)
> [...] then the Netgear will get an IP through DHCP (e.g.
> 192.168.1.100) [...]
If you connect the JWNR2010v5 WAN/Internet port to a LAN port on the
main router, then the JWNR2010v5 WAN/Internet interface would typically
get an IP _address_ using DHCP. Which is not what you want.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address
> so I guess I have to first set this up without connecting to the main
> router, and I'm pretty sure I did that in my several tries.
Did you read and follow the procedure in the thread cited above? I'm
pretty sure that I don't know what you did.
> I've set a static IP for the Netgear at 192.168.1.253.
_Which_ IP _address_ did you set, how? A router like the JWNR2010v5
has _two_ IP addresses: LAN and WAN/Internet.
> [...] I cannot connect to my Netgear at 192.168.1.253:8080 (which is
> the default Remote Management port to get the web dashboard from outside
> of the Netgear's net).
When you do _what_, exactly, _where_, exactly? "cannot" is not a
useful problem description. It does not say what you did. It does not
say what happened when you did it. As usual, showing actual actions
(commands) with their actual results (error messages, LED indicators,
...) can be more helpful than vague descriptions or interpretations.
"Remote Management" is used for access from the WAN/Internet side of
the router. If you're configuring the JWNR2010v5 as a WAP, then you
don't use its WAN/Internet side, only its LAN side.
> this tells me that the Netgear does not reserve the IP I've chosen for
> it, [...]
I don't know what the means. What it tells me is that you seem not
to be following the instructions.
> I have a feeling that the DHCP vs static IP address settings in the
> "WAN" settings of the Netgear do just that, that is, reflect on the WAN
> port only.
Well, duh. Is there anything in the instructions which says to set
anything related to the WAN/Internet interface of the router-as-WAP?
> no WAN port cable? no point in setting those up.
Exactly.
> you connect the LAN cable only? [...]
What does "the LAN cable" mean to you? Which part of the following
was unclear?:
[...] Connect an Ethernet cable from a LAN port on "The AT&T
router" to a LAN port on the C6300. [...]
> I will definitely try again, but this feels impossible with the
> advanced panel I've seen so far.
You might try following the instructions (for a change?), and relying
less on "feelings". Just a thought.
The anonymous user does want to operate the Netgear JWNR2010v5 Router as a plain wired Wireless Access Point. While the JWNR2010v5 can be configured as a wireless extender (against some router chipset resp. the same model), it does not offer a plain access point mode as per the fine documentation, the data sheet and the user manual.
As per the fine JWNR2010v5 N300 Wireless Router User Manual p.48/49, the DHCP server feature can be disabled.
DNS is not something that is "announced" somehow - however, I would not wonder a second if an old issue exists on this (as on other Netgear routers) that the plain text DNS queries (e.g. from wireless associated devices) are captured and redirected to the router local DNS server relay, which again does point to the ISP assigned (DHCP resp. PPP IPCP) - as it is for NAT router operations. This makes it impossible using these crap routers as plain access points - say thank you Netgear for the bugs, and don't shoot the messenger...
The .62 installed in place might have introduced a security update, similar to this one here -> WNR2020 WNR2020v2 Firmware Version 1.1.0.62 - why this build is not available on the Netgear site - impossible to say. Never listed? You talk to the community here, not to Netgear.
Biggest problem we're faing here that we don't get any backing from the Netgear consumer BU> [...] it does not offer a plain access point mode as per the fine
> documentation, [...]"not documented" and "doesn't work" are spelled differently for a
reason. My guess is still that it will work properly if the provided
instructions are followed.
