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rvs053063
Jul 29, 2024Guide
N900 Dual Band Gigabyte Router - WNDR4500v3 - Poor speeds
Apologies. The board choices don't have an option for just a plain, non Nighthawk router. Though this is a Gig 5G router the speeds I get wirelessly are very poor. On my iPhone 14 Pro just a bedroom...
- Jul 31, 2024
A couple things.
1. if the wndr4500 is wired into the verizon gateway, put the wndr4500 in access point mode. that fixes the double nat. It also disables some features on the wndr4500 that might take a little load off its cpu. that might help speed a bit. Not to the 300mbps that the extender is getting
2. The wndr4500 was a rock solid router when it was released. Over a decade ago. It was released in 2010/2011. It couldn't max out a gigabit connection at that time and was considered a high performer. Its 2.4ghz *might* hit 30-40mbps. Its 5ghz, maybe 70+ on a good day. smallnetbuilder did a review on it (that I'll post a link to) when it was released. Again, it was solid when it was released but that was for the old wireless N specs. We've had AC, AX, AX 6ghz, and now BE. Multiple generations ago. You wouldn't expect a computer from 13 years ago to perform as the current ones do.
NETGEAR WNDR4500 N900 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router Reviewed - SmallNetBuilder
3. Its long past time to retire that device. I can't tell you what to buy but if you have 1 gig symetrical speeds, its time to upgrade. If you're using 3x different access points right now (verizon gateway, extender, and wndr), I'd be looking at a solid mesh system. Netgear makes some good ones but they're spendy. the TP-Link's get good reviews too. Just make sure to read the tested reviews on them from knowledgeable sources and not just the generic AI/Cnet generated ones. Dong Ngo does a great job and is an honest reviewer. I'd look at a few of his posts.
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plemans
Jul 30, 2024Guru - Experienced User
1. Make sure you're connected to the 5ghz for faster speeds. 2.4ghz is a slow network and sensitive to interference.
What is the difference between 2.4 GHz, 5 GHz, and 6 GHz wireless frequencies? - NETGEAR Support
2. How is the verizon extender connected to the WNDR? Because if its a wireless extender connected to the wndr, the router is putting out decent speeds. But if its connected to something else, what is it connected to?
rvs053063
Jul 30, 2024Guide
So I do make sure I'm connected to the 5G on the WNDR. It is in the next room over. My speed is 25 Mbps. The wifi extender downstairs has nothing to do with the WNDR however even though it is downstairs I get 250+ Mbps. The WNDR is supposed to be a gig router so I don't know why the speeds are so slow. The signal strength is good though.
- plemansJul 30, 2024Guru - Experienced User
rvs053063 wrote:
So I do make sure I'm connected to the 5G on the WNDR. It is in the next room over. My speed is 25 Mbps. The wifi extender downstairs has nothing to do with the WNDR----Sure does. whats providing the extender with connection? If its the wndr, then the wndr is running fine. If its a different device like a gateway/router from verizon, then the wndr is in a double nat. however even though it is downstairs I get 250+ Mbps. The WNDR is supposed to be a gig router so I don't know why the speeds are so slow.----the WNDR will never hit gigabit speeds over wireless. Maybe wired but even that is doubtful. it was released when gigabit speeds connections were just getting going and most devices couldn't saturate gigabit. its an older N900 device. Its 2.4ghz speed might be around that 25mbps. The 5ghz should be able to go faster though. The signal strength is good though.
- rvs053063Jul 31, 2024Guide
I understand the 2.4 speeds would be slow. How fast over wireless should the 5 ghz speeds be? I have a Verizon router in the basement that connects to the fiber coming into the house. I pay for 300 Mbps speeds. The Verizon router connects via Ethernet to my WNDR on the second floor. The cable is Cat-5 which should support up to 1 G up to 100 feet, so I don't think the cable is the problem. The Verizon extender on the first floor connects via the COAX cable that feeds the TV. With the extender I get 300 Mbps wirelessly. With the WNDR I get 25 Mbps. My primary PC that is wired to the WNDR gets 300 Mbps. Is there anything that I can do to improve the wireless speeds from the WNDR at 5 Ghz? If not, should I just buy another router (one that offers more than 90 days of tech support?). Thanks.
- plemansJul 31, 2024Guru - Experienced User
A couple things.
1. if the wndr4500 is wired into the verizon gateway, put the wndr4500 in access point mode. that fixes the double nat. It also disables some features on the wndr4500 that might take a little load off its cpu. that might help speed a bit. Not to the 300mbps that the extender is getting
2. The wndr4500 was a rock solid router when it was released. Over a decade ago. It was released in 2010/2011. It couldn't max out a gigabit connection at that time and was considered a high performer. Its 2.4ghz *might* hit 30-40mbps. Its 5ghz, maybe 70+ on a good day. smallnetbuilder did a review on it (that I'll post a link to) when it was released. Again, it was solid when it was released but that was for the old wireless N specs. We've had AC, AX, AX 6ghz, and now BE. Multiple generations ago. You wouldn't expect a computer from 13 years ago to perform as the current ones do.
NETGEAR WNDR4500 N900 Wireless Dual Band Gigabit Router Reviewed - SmallNetBuilder
3. Its long past time to retire that device. I can't tell you what to buy but if you have 1 gig symetrical speeds, its time to upgrade. If you're using 3x different access points right now (verizon gateway, extender, and wndr), I'd be looking at a solid mesh system. Netgear makes some good ones but they're spendy. the TP-Link's get good reviews too. Just make sure to read the tested reviews on them from knowledgeable sources and not just the generic AI/Cnet generated ones. Dong Ngo does a great job and is an honest reviewer. I'd look at a few of his posts.
Dong Knows Tech - And THAT's Good for YOU!