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savio
Aug 04, 2021Aspirant
Port Forwarding Randomly gets deleted - Nighthawk Mesh M80
I seem to be having the same issue that is found in this post: https://community.netgear.com/t5/General-WiFi-Routers-Non/Port-Forwarding-randomly-deleted/m-p/1325629 I set up Port Forwarding fo...
antinode
Aug 04, 2021Guru
> o My router/modem are automatically power cycled/rebooted everyday at
> 4AM
Why?
What happens if you don't do that? (Or check just before and after?)
Are any other settings customizations lost at the same time? (Are you
seeing a loss of some particular customizations, or a complete settings
reset?)
> o My Firmware version is: V1.1.46
Sounds unlikely. Have you tried any others?
> It might help [...]
I'd be very interested in your explanation of how that could possibly
help in explaining how port-forwarding settings might vanish on a
router. Or do you always post the same boiler-plate regardless of the
actual problem? Perhaps thinking about the actual problem would be
helpful. You may have done this already. I can't tell from your
message.
savio
Aug 04, 2021Aspirant
My modem is ARRIS Surfboard S33 DOCSIS 3.1 Multi-Gigabit Cable Modem with 2.5 Gbps Ethernet Port. It is a cable modem only - not a router.
The reason for me power cycling daily, is that I was having issues with an old Motorola modem before, so I did buy this to power cycle it daily and refresh it and the router: Outlet Timer, NEARPOW Dual... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H1D267F?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I did try my set up without power cycling daily when I first switched over to the new nighthawk mesh, it did lose the port forwarding settings even when not power cycling daily.
I hope this helps.
The reason for me power cycling daily, is that I was having issues with an old Motorola modem before, so I did buy this to power cycle it daily and refresh it and the router: Outlet Timer, NEARPOW Dual... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H1D267F?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I did try my set up without power cycling daily when I first switched over to the new nighthawk mesh, it did lose the port forwarding settings even when not power cycling daily.
I hope this helps.
- michaelkenwardAug 04, 2021Guru - Experienced User
savio wrote:
The reason for me power cycling daily, is that I was having issues with an old Motorola modem before, so I did buy this to power cycle it daily and refresh it and the router: Outlet Timer, NEARPOW Dual... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H1D267F?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_shareBit of a sledgehammer device. Electrical rather than electronic.
The people who design routers and other electronic devices might prefer their own switching regime. That lets things write to memory before the off switch kicks in.
I found that putting a modem in front of a router caused problems after power cuts. You couldn't control the order or speed at which things started. So I ended up with a dead network because the modem was taking so long to negotiate a link that the router behind it timed out because it couldn't find an Internet connection in good time.
You say that the switching regime didn't influence the problem you see, but if you don't have the problematic modem any more, why carry on with it?
- antinodeAug 04, 2021Guru
> [...] it did lose the port forwarding settings even when not power
> cycling daily.Ok.
> [...] (Are you seeing a loss of some particular customizations, or a
> complete settings reset?)Still wondering.
> [...] Have you tried any others?
Still wondering.
> The people who design routers and other electronic devices might
> prefer their own switching regime. That lets things write to memory
> before the off switch kicks in.Yow. Do you _really_ think that cycling the power should cause a
loss of settings (some or all)?
> I found that putting a modem in front of a router caused problems
> after power cuts. [...]Was one of those "problems" loss of settings? Whose problem are we
investigating?> [...] You say that the switching regime didn't influence the problem
> you see, but if you don't have the problematic modem any more, why carry
> on with it?If it makes no difference, then what difference does it make?
- savioAug 04, 2021Aspirant
I appreciate the help - though not sure why the foucs seems to have shifted to the powercycling? It doesn't seem that is the issue of the Port Forwarding being deleted. If anything it should improve the performance as the devices are refreshed:
https://getinternet.com/how-often-should-you-reboot-your-router/
which is why I do it. With the Switch I have the modem powers on first, then 4 minutes later the router powers on so that there is enough of a delay for the the modem to power up first and the router isn't powered on prior to the modem.
To get back to the actual question at hand though, I don't notice any other settings that get changed or deleted. My address reservations are staying in tack, it is just the Port Forwarding entry that gets deleted and needs to be re-added. Again, it is usually after a few weeks with no rhyme or reason.
It has happend 4 times now since I bought the MR80.
Also, I didn't realize there was a different forum for the mesh systems so I will try posting in there - I appreciate the tip!