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Chaz1138
Jun 01, 2021Aspirant
R6220 Cannot access admin functions
I recently updated firmware on my R6220 and I suddenly cannot access the router for admin functions. Years ago, I changed the password, but it no longer works for admin functions. I still have inte...
Chaz1138
Jun 16, 2021Aspirant
it has taken me so long to respond. Things have gotten a little crazy around here and the router issue took a back seat for a while.
michaelkenward wrote:
Chaz1138 wrote:I still have internet acces for all my devices, but I cannot access the router.
What happens when you try? Any error messages?
michaelkenwardNetGeanie comes back and says my password is incorrect, no matter what password I put in. After about 5 tries or so, it locks up.
Chaz1138 wrote:Neither NETGEARGeanie or the Nighthawk iOS app can access the router.
Tried a wired connection to one of the router's Ethernet ports? That's the most reliable way in. Apps and wifi are a nightmare.
michaelkenward- Yes. I have tried with both a wired connection from my Mac Pro desktop and my ipad, using the Nighthawk app. I was able to download the NetGeanie app for iOS, but as soon as I ran it, it told me to downloadthe Nighthawk app for accessing thr router via my iPad. It has never allowed me to access the router. However, I have never had an issue like this before.
You refer to the genie. This could be one of several things, the browser interface, a Windows or Mac program for a PC, or a mobile Android/iThing app. Netgear labels them all as genies. Which are you using?
michaelkenward- I use the NetGeanie app on my desktop and the Nighthawk app on my iPad.
What firmware version do you have on the device?
A number is more useful than "the latest". (It may not be by the time people read this.) There can also be newer versions, or "hot fixes", that do not show up if you check for new firmware in the browser interface.
michaelkenward- The version of NetGeanie I have on my desktop is 2.4.42
It might also help if you told people what the modem is in front of this router, if there is one. The model number could be useful. Is it, by any chance, also a router, with a set of LAN ports on the back?
The reason for asking is that a lot of people turn up here trying to put a router behind a modem that is also a router. That can complicate troubleshooting.michaelkenward- Yes, I do have a cable modem that has its own wifi. I can't really change that. We wanted a cable modem with battery backup power when the power goes out at home so we can use our landline phones to report the power outtage or make other emergency calls. Yes, I believe it does have 4 LAN ports on the back. We use one to plug the NetGear router into. The modem is a Technicolor TC8717T.
michaelkenward
Jun 16, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Chaz1138 wrote:
Yes, I do have a cable modem that has its own wifi. I can't really change that. We wanted a cable modem with battery backup power when the power goes out at home so we can use our landline phones to report the power outtage or make other emergency calls. Yes, I believe it does have 4 LAN ports on the back. We use one to plug the NetGear router into. The modem is a Technicolor TC8717T.
This probably explains your experience. You are running with two routers.
Two routers on your network can cause headaches. For example, you can end up with local address problems. Among other things, the other router can misdirect addresses that the Netgear router usually handles, such as routerlogin.net or the usual IP address for a router, 192.168.1.1.
The router will also have trouble when you try to get into the browser's graphical user interface (GUI).
This explains some of the other drawbacks.
What is Double NAT? | Answer | NETGEAR Support
It may be possible to put the modem/router into modem only (bridge) mode and then to use the second device as the router.
The manual for your modem/router may explain how to do this, or there is aways Google.
technicolor tc8717t bridge mode - Google Search
Sometimes it is easier to put the second router, the R6220, into AP mode. (See the manual.) But that has its own drawbacks:
Disabled Features on the Router when set to AP Mode | Answer | NETGEAR Support
- Chaz1138Jun 16, 2021Aspirant
michaelkenward- Thank you very much for the information. I have never been able to access the cable router. Ever. Since we got it. I will disconnect the NetGear and see what happens. Else, it seems the only thing that may solve this issue is to get a different cable modem/router and get a smart phone for times when there is no power. Really missing the old days ... before the dark times ... before the Empire.
- michaelkenwardJun 16, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Chaz1138 wrote:
michaelkenward- Thank you very much for the information. I have never been able to access the cable router. Ever. Since we got it. I will disconnect the NetGear and see what happens.
That's a good first move. Connect a PC to the modem/router and see if you can turn off its router bit. (Look for terms like "bridge" and "passthrough" mode.)
When you have done that you can install the router.
- Chaz1138Jun 16, 2021Aspirant
Yeah ... tried it. Disconnected the NetGear and plugged my MacPro directly in to the cable modem and rebooted both of them so that the modem's router would assign it an IP, but I lost internet access through my web browser. I still can't acces the cable modem's router directly.
michaelkenward wrote:
Chaz1138 wrote:michaelkenward- Thank you very much for the information. I have never been able to access the cable router. Ever. Since we got it. I will disconnect the NetGear and see what happens.
That's a good first move. Connect a PC to the modem/router and see if you can turn off its router bit. (Look for terms like "bridge" and "passthrough" mode.)
When you have done that you can install the router.