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R0BBYMALZ
Jun 24, 2018Guide
Random devices on my network displayed in Windows explorer under the network section
Random devices that i did not connect to my network are popping up under the Network section of Windows Explorer. However, when i check on my Netgear Router settings, none of these devices appear anywhere. They don't appear on the list that shows what is currently connected and they are not on the list that shows devices are not connected but once were.
I don't understand how these devices are on my Network. And I'm not sure if this is just an issue with Windows 10. Even after changing my router password, these devices still remain "connected"
These are 2 items that have popped up
1) Car-1b44:
Manufacturer: DENSO, Manufacturer webpage unavailable
Model: Honda Generation 1 mid grade, model webpage unavailable
Model Number: Generation 1 mid grade
Device webpage: Presentation webpage unavailable
Serial number: unavailable
MAC Address: a0:cc:2b:08:1b:43
Unique identifier: unavailable
IP address: unavailable
2) Sitara
Manufacturer: TI, manufacturer webpage unavailable
Model: Wilink, model webpage unavailable
Model number: wl18xx
Device webpage: presentation webpage unavailable
Seriap number: unavailable
MAC address: 50:f1:4a:ad:ca:76
Unique identifier: unavailable
IP address: unavailable
I don't understand how these devices are on my Network. And I'm not sure if this is just an issue with Windows 10. Even after changing my router password, these devices still remain "connected"
These are 2 items that have popped up
1) Car-1b44:
Manufacturer: DENSO, Manufacturer webpage unavailable
Model: Honda Generation 1 mid grade, model webpage unavailable
Model Number: Generation 1 mid grade
Device webpage: Presentation webpage unavailable
Serial number: unavailable
MAC Address: a0:cc:2b:08:1b:43
Unique identifier: unavailable
IP address: unavailable
2) Sitara
Manufacturer: TI, manufacturer webpage unavailable
Model: Wilink, model webpage unavailable
Model number: wl18xx
Device webpage: presentation webpage unavailable
Seriap number: unavailable
MAC address: 50:f1:4a:ad:ca:76
Unique identifier: unavailable
IP address: unavailable
- I do believe I found a potential solutions after doing some research about this issue. "Research" was in fact suggested by another user so here's what I foundHere is the link to another forum on Netgear Community of a user who also experiences this issue as well as someone's response to their questionRe: Random device appearing under Network in Windows?That is a WINDOWS bug... All my computers would show a phone connected to the network. Router access list would not. Explorer wouldn't show it on the network either.
Others have posted about this as well on the web, http://www.eightforums.com/network-sharing/12630-someones-phone-connected-my-network-why-how.html.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-networking/unknown-phone-appears-as-a-con...
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Wireless-Networking/Unknown-devices-showing-in-windows-8-network...
As the last one shows, it is probably due to Windows Connect Now Service:
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WCNCSVC hosts the Windows Connect Now Configuration which is Microsoft's Implementation of Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS) protocol. This is used to configure Wireless LAN settings for an Access Point (AP) or a Wi-Fi Device. The service is started programmatically as needed.
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I just disabled that service and no longer see this. I can only surmise that it senses a phone nearby and 'remembers' it. In my case they tend to disappear within minutes and properties only show a MAC address, it never connects.Message 5 of 5
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- Update:
Now added to the list is this
3) BLU_DASH_M2
Manufacturer: BLU, manufacturer webpage unavailable
Model: BLU DASH M2, model webpage unavailable
Model number: BLUE DASH M2
Device webpage: presentation webpage unavailable
Serial number: unavailable
MAC address: cc:79:4a:ea:cf:3a
Unique identifier: unavailable
IP address: unavailable - jessieessexInitiateI have the same exact question. The device on my list is Car-b467 and the MAC address is different but the rest is all the same.
- ArhurTTutor
Me too!
I also have popping up from time to time a sitara (mac addr a4 d5 78 17 b4 e1) but also an " mstar-edison (mobile phone?) macaddr 00 84 00 03 cb 6d. Mstar edison is not a phone brand or service provider I am familiar with in Australia by the way. I suspect it is a controller for smart lighting in a nearby apartment - I live in an apartment block in Sydney and I see them mostly after dark which currently means after say 6 pm since we are currently in mid-winter. .
My passwords are in ancient greek, which cannot be all that common nowadays so I think it very very unlikely that it is a "hacker". I am not using any mains electricity supported pseudo ethernet connections (WD-livewire etc) anymore and most of my own connections to the router are cat6 ethernet - ( Yes I paid a lot for that! Yes it was worth it., I think. ). Everything else checks out normally with the proviso that in the evenings the lights on the router are indicating more traffic than I can account for because although I do have quite a lot of devices (smart tvs etc) connected, most of them are powered off. (Yes I know they have to update firmware/program guides etc but I did the exercise of turning things off to isolate where the traffic was without success. Would be nice if the router logged it conveniently eg by macaddr - for subsequent analysis. )
What I most want to know is how are these ghost devices connecting? On the face of it they are getting in wirelessly but bypassing security! very worrying! Yet clearly they are, else it would not be possible to see their macaddrs. I have seen them on win 7 and win 10 pcs. I check regularly and am a stickler for keeping antivirus etc up to date so we haven't had any of those problems for decades.
My router is a 7000p about a year old. Very pleased with it apart from the floppy aerials which dont seem to have any facility for tightening up in the desired position. (?) And I would prefer the usb3 port on the back, not the front guys. Oh and (sorry about this) the overhang at the back means it is very awkward to reach ethernet ports etc if like me you have it high up for better clearance.
I do have a Google home mini, but no other associated smart devices. (Been doing a lot of the "smart home" stuff for years actually without it. )
I think this is potentially a very serious problem. If somebody is manufacturing things which can just "sneak in" whenever they want, it needs to be sorted out asap before that "technology" finds other uses. I am turning on Access Control and blocking the above macaddrs but one cant do that unless you've id'd the macaddrs. Blocking all new devices seems a bit over the top to me.
Regards
Arthur T.
- MonteDInitiate
Yes, I also see Sitara among network devices. Can we get an answer on what the heck that is?
- Skipper909InitiateYep I'm in same boat. Can someone get us an answer on this?
Cheers
- I do believe I found a potential solutions after doing some research about this issue. "Research" was in fact suggested by another user so here's what I foundHere is the link to another forum on Netgear Community of a user who also experiences this issue as well as someone's response to their questionRe: Random device appearing under Network in Windows?That is a WINDOWS bug... All my computers would show a phone connected to the network. Router access list would not. Explorer wouldn't show it on the network either.
Others have posted about this as well on the web, http://www.eightforums.com/network-sharing/12630-someones-phone-connected-my-network-why-how.html.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-networking/unknown-phone-appears-as-a-con...
http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/Wireless-Networking/Unknown-devices-showing-in-windows-8-network...
As the last one shows, it is probably due to Windows Connect Now Service:
===========
WCNCSVC hosts the Windows Connect Now Configuration which is Microsoft's Implementation of Wi-Fi Protected Setup (WPS) protocol. This is used to configure Wireless LAN settings for an Access Point (AP) or a Wi-Fi Device. The service is started programmatically as needed.
===========
I just disabled that service and no longer see this. I can only surmise that it senses a phone nearby and 'remembers' it. In my case they tend to disappear within minutes and properties only show a MAC address, it never connects.Message 5 of 5