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roger_h
Apr 29, 2021Aspirant
5g DFS channels in US r7000 r7000p ex7000 and in general. All firmware release notes lacking data.
R7000 R7000P EX7000 all firmware realease notes. I have R7000 R7000P and Ex7000's used as AP - Extender pairs. All at various firmware levels. One of the EX7000's is at V1.0.1.94_1.0.172 and I ...
- Jun 11, 2021
I might as well close this out. After numerous searches and reading about this and the response in general from all software and firmware providers, seen in searches and personal experience: My conclusion is that the "as is" "as available" clause to protect the providers is being abused to excuse sloppy programming and sloppy testing and non existant support.
I believe this allows hiring the cheapest programmers and testers and support staff! There is no incentive to actually test changes since no responsibility is required. LET THE BUYER BEWARE. SPEND UPFRONT TIME TO TEST AND EVALUATE ANYTHING YOU BUY. THEN TAKE BACK AS SOON AS YOU FIND IT IS CRAP. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE!
The EX7000 pair I am using are not perfect, but are acceptable for the near future as a replacement for the R7000p/EX7000. My only complaint is that the power level setting does not seem to make a difference. Although at 25% 5g dropped out. So I abandoned further testing. Enough is enough. I can get obsessed with trying. As some say "its does no good to kick a dead horse".
roger_h
May 11, 2021Aspirant
No answers. So despite knowing update to latest level may cause some grief, I updated to 1.3.2.134 hoping to get DFS channels.
NOPE STILL ONLY 36 40 44 48, 149 153 157 161.
My question is since the R7000P is DFS approved in the US.
WHY ARE THERE NO DFS CHANNELS available t this the latest level?
When will DFSt be available on the R7000P ?
Please Does anyone know the answer? The EX7000 does have DFS !
Thanks for any information. (Any information for R7000 would also be appreciated.
roger_h
May 12, 2021Aspirant
Now I found this saying Netgear knows the solution.
Solved: Re: Netgear's 'wireless bridge' DFS CHANNEL blunde... - NETGEAR Communities
When is Netgear going to fix this for R7000P and other routers?
This means that it does work if installing as router bu not if installed as AP.
Does Netgear have any release date to fix this blunder?
Again any news will be appriciated.(Please tell me I didn't waste the money and time on a product that is worthless!) I am willing to try new firmware and use the flaky update process
to obtain the DFS channels I paid to have in the product. Even though I seem to get a different result every time I do a reset!
I already have a modem router and really only want the AP function.
Thanks for any information.
Roger
- roger_hMay 22, 2021Aspirant
Attempted to setup as a router and turn off DHCP. Always ended up with The IP address conflicts with the WAN IP subnet. Please enter a different IP address message. On a few attemps it would actually apply the settings , but result in no access to the router, The modem router still shows two addresses or the R7000P but they are nor accessable.
To me the important fact is that t no time in the setup did the router show DFS channels.
Netgear does not seem to want to make it clear what channels are in the firmware. This implies the router is capable of DFS as all Netgear documents state, but the firmware does not support DFS. I think but cannot prove that "router mode with DHCP off is treated the same as" the "extender mode". In any case it definetly appears that DFS is not in the firmware for this router.
Does anyone out there have the DFS channels working on this as either a router or as an extender?" Would NETGEAR actually comment on this. I am definetly feeling ripped off?
Having seen that there appears to be no DFS support in the firmware, I wish I had not trusted NETGEAR. I had no problems with previous routers including NETGEAR.
I will now go back to setting up as an AP untill it allows me to access it to change settings.
Please respond if you have any solid infirmation about why DFS is not supported in the firmware.
Roger
- roger_hMay 25, 2021Aspirant
Still NETGEAR silence is deafining. So I decided to test the EX7000 as an AP What a up experience compared to R7000P. Took to barn and configured it from extender to AP. No reset required! Worked as expected! Checked out DFS channels and selected 104 with no problem. Went to house and 2g and 5g quality at same exact spot in house were the same as the R7000P as extender! Went back to barn and changed the EX7000 back to extender. No reset required! Went back to house EX7000 working as expected. If only the R7000P was properly programmed! So I decided to wait and see if NETGEAR actually does anything about DFS for the R7000P. Then when EX7000 price goes down I'll replace the junk R7000P if NETGEAR leaves it in a worthless condition. The EX7000 programmer is doing his job? I hope the R7000P guy wakes up! Or at least states why DFS in not working and why the user interface is so bad. Having looked at warrenty etc and noticed the statements that "firmware is as is" and "as available" I have lost faith that the R7000P will be fixed. Bu I am hoping that he gets a fire lighted under him and fixes it.
So I will continue to hope that the R7000P is fixed in the near future. I do not want to go to my backup plan and get another EX7000!
If I had known how good the EX7000 is I would never have bought the R7000P, I would have bought two Ex7000's and have a good setup in minutes.
Roger
- roger_hMay 29, 2021Aspirant
Decided to get a refurbished EX7000 to see if DFS works in both extender and access point modes. IT DOES! I hooked the new EX7000 to my lan on the house EX7000 extender. I had read that an access point should be able to connect that way. It worked and accesses internet but caused problems with accessing devices on the lan. Gave that up and thought it could just be moved to barn. In the barn and connected to the router. Lost access to other devices on the lan. And ip address for the new EX7000 dissapeared. So I am guessing that it was a bad idea to setup on the extender. Reset everything +new extender and set up the new extender as an access point. Updated to latest firmware to obtain DFS channels. When setting up channel 104 I didn't set the passphrase and tried again and got an error saying radar detected. Couldn't set different DFS channel after that. Later I switched to lower DFS channels and no radar error. Then back to 104 with no radar error. Having errors in 5g channels may have flakey results. So all thats left is to try all DFS channels before I am happy! Thus I have now determined that the EX7000's gives DFS access that the R7000P - EX7000 does not, I will wait untill the non DFS channels in my area get saturated.
When that occurs and if the R7000P still has no DFS at that time I may try DD-WRT on the R7000P for my son's house. If his R7000 still has no DFS. Or use the R7000 for a decoration.
So for now I'll wait a little longer to see if anyone has more infromation? I 've been retired since 92, so I have a little patience to try these things out! But the R7000P status and the "as available" firmware updates (if ever) is very irritating. In honesty I have seen confusion in all the brands that caused me to spend 49.00 for a refurbished EX7000 that had a good chance to satisfy me.
LIVE and LEARN!!!!! Buyer be very bewary?
I now know DFS for EXT working in both AP and the EXT, the EX7000's are a winner.
Roger