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roger_h
Apr 29, 2021Aspirant
5g DFS channels in US r7000 r7000p ex7000 and in general. All firmware release notes lacking data.
R7000 R7000P EX7000 all firmware realease notes. I have R7000 R7000P and Ex7000's used as AP - Extender pairs. All at various firmware levels. One of the EX7000's is at V1.0.1.94_1.0.172 and I ...
- Jun 11, 2021
I might as well close this out. After numerous searches and reading about this and the response in general from all software and firmware providers, seen in searches and personal experience: My conclusion is that the "as is" "as available" clause to protect the providers is being abused to excuse sloppy programming and sloppy testing and non existant support.
I believe this allows hiring the cheapest programmers and testers and support staff! There is no incentive to actually test changes since no responsibility is required. LET THE BUYER BEWARE. SPEND UPFRONT TIME TO TEST AND EVALUATE ANYTHING YOU BUY. THEN TAKE BACK AS SOON AS YOU FIND IT IS CRAP. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE!
The EX7000 pair I am using are not perfect, but are acceptable for the near future as a replacement for the R7000p/EX7000. My only complaint is that the power level setting does not seem to make a difference. Although at 25% 5g dropped out. So I abandoned further testing. Enough is enough. I can get obsessed with trying. As some say "its does no good to kick a dead horse".
roger_h
May 25, 2021Aspirant
Still NETGEAR silence is deafining. So I decided to test the EX7000 as an AP What a up experience compared to R7000P. Took to barn and configured it from extender to AP. No reset required! Worked as expected! Checked out DFS channels and selected 104 with no problem. Went to house and 2g and 5g quality at same exact spot in house were the same as the R7000P as extender! Went back to barn and changed the EX7000 back to extender. No reset required! Went back to house EX7000 working as expected. If only the R7000P was properly programmed! So I decided to wait and see if NETGEAR actually does anything about DFS for the R7000P. Then when EX7000 price goes down I'll replace the junk R7000P if NETGEAR leaves it in a worthless condition. The EX7000 programmer is doing his job? I hope the R7000P guy wakes up! Or at least states why DFS in not working and why the user interface is so bad. Having looked at warrenty etc and noticed the statements that "firmware is as is" and "as available" I have lost faith that the R7000P will be fixed. Bu I am hoping that he gets a fire lighted under him and fixes it.
So I will continue to hope that the R7000P is fixed in the near future. I do not want to go to my backup plan and get another EX7000!
If I had known how good the EX7000 is I would never have bought the R7000P, I would have bought two Ex7000's and have a good setup in minutes.
Roger
roger_h
May 29, 2021Aspirant
Decided to get a refurbished EX7000 to see if DFS works in both extender and access point modes. IT DOES! I hooked the new EX7000 to my lan on the house EX7000 extender. I had read that an access point should be able to connect that way. It worked and accesses internet but caused problems with accessing devices on the lan. Gave that up and thought it could just be moved to barn. In the barn and connected to the router. Lost access to other devices on the lan. And ip address for the new EX7000 dissapeared. So I am guessing that it was a bad idea to setup on the extender. Reset everything +new extender and set up the new extender as an access point. Updated to latest firmware to obtain DFS channels. When setting up channel 104 I didn't set the passphrase and tried again and got an error saying radar detected. Couldn't set different DFS channel after that. Later I switched to lower DFS channels and no radar error. Then back to 104 with no radar error. Having errors in 5g channels may have flakey results. So all thats left is to try all DFS channels before I am happy! Thus I have now determined that the EX7000's gives DFS access that the R7000P - EX7000 does not, I will wait untill the non DFS channels in my area get saturated.
When that occurs and if the R7000P still has no DFS at that time I may try DD-WRT on the R7000P for my son's house. If his R7000 still has no DFS. Or use the R7000 for a decoration.
So for now I'll wait a little longer to see if anyone has more infromation? I 've been retired since 92, so I have a little patience to try these things out! But the R7000P status and the "as available" firmware updates (if ever) is very irritating. In honesty I have seen confusion in all the brands that caused me to spend 49.00 for a refurbished EX7000 that had a good chance to satisfy me.
LIVE and LEARN!!!!! Buyer be very bewary?
I now know DFS for EXT working in both AP and the EXT, the EX7000's are a winner.
Roger
- roger_hMay 30, 2021Aspirant
Two pictures of channel information. The country list from the EX7000 and the channell selection available in the wifi settings. The available channels in the EX7000 selection are a subset of those allowed in th US. But since the R7000P does not allow any it is an improvement that will be ok untill everyone in the neighborhood is using 5g. Hopefully Netgear will update all capable routers to allow use of DFS channels.
I have not seen any indication of radar detected again, so the message when first setting up is likely another coding problem to be ignored.
- roger_hMay 31, 2021Aspirant
Tried the following:
Completely avoiding the Smart Wizard | Answer | NETGEAR Support
Worked as it should have, like the old way to setup. Routerlogin.net is so buggy and crappy.
After setting up the only glitch was I had to reset modem,and routers, APs to get login to my router due to 192.168.1.1 conflict.
I always prefered to setup my network devices at my couch.
The wifi speed seems to be equal on the R7000P/Ex7000 vs EX7000/EX7000. So now I am happy with my one way conversation, and resigned to being in the dark about DFS channels, So hopefully NETGEAR will eventually get their act together about DFS!
Roger
- roger_hJun 11, 2021Aspirant
I might as well close this out. After numerous searches and reading about this and the response in general from all software and firmware providers, seen in searches and personal experience: My conclusion is that the "as is" "as available" clause to protect the providers is being abused to excuse sloppy programming and sloppy testing and non existant support.
I believe this allows hiring the cheapest programmers and testers and support staff! There is no incentive to actually test changes since no responsibility is required. LET THE BUYER BEWARE. SPEND UPFRONT TIME TO TEST AND EVALUATE ANYTHING YOU BUY. THEN TAKE BACK AS SOON AS YOU FIND IT IS CRAP. DO NOT TRUST ANYONE!
The EX7000 pair I am using are not perfect, but are acceptable for the near future as a replacement for the R7000p/EX7000. My only complaint is that the power level setting does not seem to make a difference. Although at 25% 5g dropped out. So I abandoned further testing. Enough is enough. I can get obsessed with trying. As some say "its does no good to kick a dead horse".