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dbonneville
Mar 26, 2019Follower
Can't get Time Machine to work with Nighthawk
Mac OS Mojave 10.14.3
Nighthawk(R) X4S R7800
Router Firmware Version V1.0.2.62 (just updated)
I bought a new 1TB Seagate SSD external HD. I formatted it according to the instructions low...
wkuchrisn
Mar 18, 2020Star
labatt wrote:IMHO things like you are trying to get done is like an ugly wort on a pretty face. I decided long ago to not subject myself to the pain and suffering of getting disk sharing working on a router.
Ok ... but this thread is about getting a feature that's a selling feature - it's literally on the box - to work. People purchased these routers and are expecting to get at least what they paid for. Some of these routers had the feature completely removed in a firmware update making them choose between critical updates a reason they bought the hardware. This is a work around to a broken or missing feature, just as adding a separate NAS is. Maybe it's not as pretty, but it sure is free.
papagordie
Mar 19, 2020Guide
I was optimistic this thread might help me set up a second, alternating Time Machine backup. However, once the sparse image is mounted it winds up in Time Machine's privacy exclusion list and there is no obvious way to remove it. It cannot even be highlighted in the privacy list.
Does anyone have an idea how I can keep it out of Time Machine's privacy section?
- antinodeMar 19, 2020Guru
> [...] once the sparse image is mounted it winds up in Time Machine's
> privacy exclusion list [...]What, exactly, does "privacy exclusion list" mean to you? Do you
mean the Options... > "Exclude these items from backups:" list, or
something which actually mentions "privacy" somewhere else, or what?As usual, showing actual actions (commands) with their actual results
(error messages, LED indicators, ...) can be more helpful than vague
descriptions or interpretations.If your backup destination is visible as part of your local file
system, then Time Machine _should_ exclude it from its backup to-do
list. Including the backup destination itself in the list of items to
back up would be circular.> Does anyone have an idea how I can keep it out of Time Machine's
> privacy section?Where, exactly, did you find this "privacy section"? About what,
exactly, are you talking?- papagordieMar 19, 2020Guide
First I will comment that I am aware of your instruction to use Terminal to set the destination. However, since I already have one Time Machine backup running I was concerned that running the referenced Terminal command might muck up my current TM backup. Perhaps my cirumstance and request is too obscure for the purposes you have generously provided but I was hoping to learn one way or the other if I could make this work.
With respect to your questions to clarify what I was trying to describe I did intend to attach these pics the first time around:
- wkuchrisnMar 19, 2020Star
I not exactly sure what you're trying to do, and the images are blank for me.
It sounds like you're either trying to have a 2nd Time Machine that backups up a source mac and 1st time machine setup, or have two Time Machines that your mac backs up to and alternates between them. I'm not sure if either of those setups are possible though I'm not really a Time Machine expert, so someone else may be able to comment.
I will tell you that the terminal command, `tmutil setdestination`, only lets Time Machine know it is a valid location for Time Machine to backup (it may set that as the default location as well, I'm not sure as I only have the 1 disk). It won't stop it from backing up to anywhere else.
- papagordieMar 21, 2020Guide
antinode wrote:
in reply to this comment of mine:> [...] once the sparse image is mounted it winds up in Time Machine's
> privacy exclusion list [...]>> What, exactly, does "privacy exclusion list" mean to you? Do you
>>mean the Options... > "Exclude these items from backups:" list, or
>>something which actually mentions "privacy" somewhere else, or what?>> As usual, showing actual actions (commands) with their actual results
>>(error messages, LED indicators, ...) can be more helpful than vague
>>descriptions or interpretations.Early on with Time Machine after it was introduced, (perhaps with Snow Leopard?) I learned that Time Machine's "exclusion list" or "privacy list" or even what I used "privacy exclusion list" referred to:
System Preferences -> Time Machine -> Options -> Exclude these items from backup
Even the tmutil man page refers to "exclusion" so that word and those phrases have just stuck in my head. Writing all of this out makes me appreciate your comment more that I should have used different language for the purposes here. I will take more care if I should post again.
>> If your backup destination is visible as part of your local file
>>system, then Time Machine _should_ exclude it from its backup to-do
>>list. Including the backup destination itself in the list of items to
>>back up would be circular.Yes, I was slow catching up to that and that information was just stuck in my brain. It makes complete sense and I do understand your comment here.
> Does anyone have an idea how I can keep it out of Time Machine's
> privacy section?> Where, exactly, did you find this "privacy section"? About what,
> exactly, are you talking?As I mentioned at the start, I learned early on the ways I used to describe certain Time Machine Options , especially the use of words/phrases such as "exclusion list" as well as "privacy pane" in Time Machine's Options preferences. I belong to a few Mac Lists that all use, and accept, that type of terminology. Obviously this forum is different and I failed to consider that when I used the terms I did.
If you are interested, here is one site I was reading for reference while I was trying to sort this out:
advanced-time-machine-backups-multiple-sources-multiple-destinations/
where part of their descriptions say this:
"You should see the external drive listed in your exclusions. You can then select it and click on the – button below. You remove it from the exclusions in order to add it to the list to back up."
When posting to this forum I will definitely think differently about the terms I use. It is now easy to see how the way I intended to describe things did not come across in the manner I had hoped.
- antinodeMar 21, 2020Guru
> Early on with Time Machine after it was introduced, (perhaps with Snow
> Leopard?) I learned that Time Machine's "exclusion list" or "privacy
> list" or even what I used "privacy exclusion list" referred to:
> System Preferences -> Time Machine -> Options -> Exclude these items
> from backupI don't see any "Options..." control on 10.5.8 (plain-old Leopard?).
I'm sure that you can find people calling the "Exclude these items"
list by all kinds of names, but not everyone will have heard all of
them. In general, using the exact wording shown by the program will be
less likely to confuse the reader. "exclusion" didn't bother me, but I
saw "privacy" nowhere, so it wasn't clear that I was looking at the same
thing as you. My knowledge is far from complete, so, for all I know,
there could easily be a real "privacy" thing somewhere.I had always thought of this feature as limiting storage
requirements, but I can see that it could be used to keep relatives from
exploring one's porn collection, too.
> When posting to this forum I will definitely think differently about
> the terms I use. [...]Communication in general works best when everyone uses the same
terminology. Around here, prople frequently invent their own technical
terms, and seem amazed when readers are baffled.