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FTTH & GPON
This area in Central Oregon now has FTTH and the ONT on my house is by Calix. There is a 722GE inside the ONT. I'm subscribed to just 100mbps and don't need speed. No TV, no phone. CAT5 brings intern...
"Even if you could buy ISP equipment in the free market, it won't be customized to the ISP requirements and defaults. TR-069 (ff.) requires for example a signed certificate owned by the ISP." Ok, this I understand............but.
"Or have I missed any real problem caused by using the Netgear router?"............but.
Without the ISP knowing, spoofing the Actiontec's MAC address into my R7000P, my Netgear router has access to the internet and works.
Upon letting the ISP know my R7000P is connected to the "hand over point", using its own MAC address it doesn't work.
It could be when the ISP didn't know about the spoofing, they were not asking for that TR-069? Or since I can't see what the ISP is doing, my Netgear router's MAC address is not given their blessings. Yes I understand using my router there is no support from the ISP. No TV or phone service from the ISP, but the information given is good to know.
So the "real problem" is not being allowed to use my router and paying rental fees for the Actiontec. When I have a little more time, one more experiment for grins & giggles.
WishIknew wrote:Without the ISP knowing, spoofing the Actiontec's MAC address into my R7000P, my Netgear router has access to the internet and works.
Upon letting the ISP know my R7000P is connected to the "hand over point", using its own MAC address it doesn't work.
This is the reason this feature exits on Ethernet routers for decades - because few ISP "lock" the connection to either thier own or to the first MAC connected.
WishIknew wrote:It could be when the ISP didn't know about the spoofing,
Of course they know ...
WishIknew wrote:So the "real problem" is not being allowed to use my router and paying rental fees for the Actiontec. When I have a little more time, one more experiment for grins & giggles.
Guess they want you to pay, then to pay, and then to pay again ... for no added value. Is there anything the like in the contract disallowing to use a different router?
"Guess they want you to pay, then to pay, and then to pay again ... for no added value. Is there anything the like in the contract disallowing to use a different router?"
Giving away the ISP: Fiber-to-the-Premises. Certain types of our High Speed Internet services are delivered by FTTP. For those services we install a Media Converter or Optical Router at the customers premises. The Media Converter or Optical Router then connects via a cable to a customer provided device (e.g. Switch, Hub, etc.). If you have questions...............bla, bla, bla
I had to dig deep and search a while to find the above. Could be more elsewhere.
What the ISP will not discuss is what will work on their network. In phone calls their employees will not mention or suggest any brand, model, etc. for fear of legal issues if that brand, model, etc. does not work. Catch 22.................
I have a question for other R7000P owners or Netgear experts. The MAC address on the box is 3C:37:86:59:21:73.
Going into the router config: ADVANCED-HOME under Router Information the MAC address is 3C:37:86:59:21:73 and
under Internet Port the MAC address is 3C:37:86:59:21:74
At ADVANCED-INTERNET SETUP there are three options. Under Use Default Address we have 3C:37:86:59:21:74
and under Use This MAC address we have 3C:37:86:59:21:74. The other option is use another MAC address and there is where to spoof.
In the past with other Netgear routers the MAC address on the box was the go to MAC address to use. I've never seen two different MAC addresses. No doubt 3C:37:86:59:21:73 does not work, or the ISP is blocking. Is something in the config amiss? I've pushed the RESET several times.
Maybe time to purchase another router?
> [...] I've never seen two different MAC addresses. [...]
Every network interface has a MAC address. A typical router has a
LAN interface and a WAN/Internet interface, each of which has its own
MAC address. I'd expect an ISP to care about the MAC address of the
router's WAN/Internet interface (the one to which it connects). If
you've been giving your ISP the MAC address of your router's _LAN_
interface, then that might explain the problem.> In the past with other Netgear routers the MAC address on the box was
> the go to MAC address to use. [...]I can't account for what's on the box. On the box of the one
D7000[v1] for which I have the box, the MAC address on the label on the
box is for the LAN interface. So far as I know, no one cares about the
MAC address for a DSL modem+router, but the pattern might extend to
cable-TV gizmos, too.If you haven't yet completely alienated your ISP support people, then
you might try giving them the same MAC address that the router would be
giving them (for its WAN/Internet interface), and see how that works.
In case you were thinking about trying it, I would expect trouble if
you tried to configure the MAC address of the router's WAN/Internet
interface to match the box/label, because that would put the same MAC
address on both its LAN and WAN/Internet interfaces.