Hello,Have (2) Netgear R6700 v3.Want to cascade to the second router in the basement to expand coverage but also would like the guest network access at this router.I have read this is not possible with LAN-LAN only with LAN-WAN.However, with LAN-WAN there is not a seamless transition throughout the floors in my home.All SSIDs and passwords are the same on both routers, ie Netgear, Netgear5, Netgear-guest, Netgear5-guest.Setting it up as an AP, I have read significantly decreases speed.Am I missing something?Thank you for your assistance.

7474 wrote:Hello,Have (2) Netgear R6700 v3.Want to cascade to the second router in the basement to expand coverage but also would like the guest network access at this router.I have read this is not possible with LAN-LAN only with LAN-WAN.Guest Network is only supported in Router mode so LAN-WAN is needed for this configuration.However, with LAN-WAN there is not a seamless transition throughout the floors in my home.What do you mean by "not a seamless transition"?Having two routers in this configuration will cause a double NAT configuration. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAThttps://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NATSo will be two different networks. I can be done thought. All SSIDs and passwords are the same on both routers, ie Netgear, Netgear5, Netgear-guest, Netgear5-guest.What channels are you using between the 1st and 2nd router? Channels need to be far appart between them for each frequency. Setting it up as an AP, I have read significantly decreases speed. Where did you read about this? AP mode would be best and it offers the best performance since it doesn't have to do any router or management processing.

Thanks for the reply.Regarding seamless transition, when moving throughout the house with the LAN-to-LAN connection there is full strength. However, moving throughout the house on LAN to WAN The signal drops strength.For example, in LAN-to-LAN starting on the second floor and working my way to the basement on a specific SSID the strength stays the same throughout.Doing the same with LAN to WAN, The signal loses strength even if I’m standing right next to the basement router. I have to turn the device Wi-Fi off/on To get it to connect to the basement router Which then shows full strength.Regarding the decrease in speed in AP mode,https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-WiFi-Routers/WAN-OR-LAN-Port-for-Access-Point/td-p/1066674Thanks again for your assistance.

That issue is dealing with the WAN connection rate on the WAN port. There either was a bad cable being use, the upstream router doesn't support 1000Mbs when that router was connected or there HW was bad. All ports on most 6 and 7 series routers are all 1000Mpbs supporting. Even my WNDR3700 had 1000Mpbs ports when I had it. However the ports are auto adjusting to what ever the main connection is or if a cable is used that is not wired right or is bad, can cause the WAN port rate to drop to 100Mpbs. So I would not put much emphasis on that link as it was not resolved as well from 2016. I know my R7800 works well in either mode and gets 1000Mpbs on ALL ports. You can check yours with each other to see the connection rate being used on the WAN port in either mode. Check your HW first. CAT6 LAN cable is recommended for best results and performances.

7474 wrote:However, with LAN-WAN there is not a seamless transition throughout the floors in my home. I do not know what you mean by "seamless transition" but using the same SSID is probably no better than using different SSIDs. It makes it easier to remember passwords, but every time a device moves from one router to another it has to negotiate a connection. Some people say that using the same SSID can actually make things harder because it can confuse wifi clients. They are in charge of negotiating wifi connections. Truly seamless wifi needs Mesh technology, like Netgear's Orbi system. That is what it is designed to achieve.

Regarding seamless transition, when moving throughout the house with the LAN-to-LAN connection there is full strength. However, moving throughout the house on LAN to WAN The signal drops strength.For example, in LAN-to-LAN starting on the second floor and working my way to the basement on a specific SSID the strength stays the same throughout.Doing the same with LAN to WAN, The signal loses strength even if I’m standing right next to the basement router. I have to turn the device Wi-Fi off/on To get it to connect to the basement router Which then shows full strength.

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FURRYe38
Guru - Experienced User
Dec 06, 2021
7474 wrote:
Hello,

Have (2) Netgear R6700 v3.

Want to cascade to the second router in the basement to expand coverage but also would like the guest network access at this router.

I have read this is not possible with LAN-LAN only with LAN-WAN.
Guest Network is only supported in Router mode so LAN-WAN is needed for this configuration.

However, with LAN-WAN there is not a seamless transition throughout the floors in my home.
What do you mean by "not a seamless transition"?
Having two routers in this configuration will cause a double NAT configuration.
https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
So will be two different networks. I can be done thought.

All SSIDs and passwords are the same on both routers, ie Netgear, Netgear5, Netgear-guest, Netgear5-guest.
What channels are you using between the 1st and 2nd router? Channels need to be far appart between them for each frequency.

Setting it up as an AP, I have read significantly decreases speed. Where did you read about this? AP mode would be best and it offers the best performance since it doesn't have to do any router or management processing.
- 7474
  Tutor
  Dec 06, 2021
  Thanks for the reply.
  
  Regarding seamless transition, when moving throughout the house with the LAN-to-LAN connection there is full strength. However, moving throughout the house on LAN to WAN The signal drops strength.
  
  For example, in LAN-to-LAN starting on the second floor and working my way to the basement on a specific SSID the strength stays the same throughout.
  
  Doing the same with LAN to WAN, The signal loses strength even if I’m standing right next to the basement router. I have to turn the device Wi-Fi off/on To get it to connect to the basement router Which then shows full strength.
  
  Regarding the decrease in speed in AP mode,
  
  https://community.netgear.com/t5/Nighthawk-WiFi-Routers/WAN-OR-LAN-Port-for-Access-Point/td-p/1066674
  
  Thanks again for your assistance.
  - FURRYe38
    Guru - Experienced User
    Dec 06, 2021
    That issue is dealing with the WAN connection rate on the WAN port. There either was a bad cable being use, the upstream router doesn't support 1000Mbs when that router was connected or there HW was bad. All ports on most 6 and 7 series routers are all 1000Mpbs supporting. Even my WNDR3700 had 1000Mpbs ports when I had it. However the ports are auto adjusting to what ever the main connection is or if a cable is used that is not wired right or is bad, can cause the WAN port rate to drop to 100Mpbs. So I would not put much emphasis on that link as it was not resolved as well from 2016. I know my R7800 works well in either mode and gets 1000Mpbs on ALL ports.
    
    You can check yours with each other to see the connection rate being used on the WAN port in either mode. Check your HW first.
    
    CAT6 LAN cable is recommended for best results and performances.
michaelkenward
Guru - Experienced User
Dec 07, 2021
7474 wrote:
However, with LAN-WAN there is not a seamless transition throughout the floors in my home.

I do not know what you mean by "seamless transition" but using the same SSID is probably no better than using different SSIDs. It makes it easier to remember passwords, but every time a device moves from one router to another it has to negotiate a connection.

Some people say that using the same SSID can actually make things harder because it can confuse wifi clients. They are in charge of negotiating wifi connections.

Truly seamless wifi needs Mesh technology, like Netgear's Orbi system. That is what it is designed to achieve.
- 7474
  Tutor
  Dec 07, 2021
  Regarding seamless transition, when moving throughout the house with the LAN-to-LAN connection there is full strength. However, moving throughout the house on LAN to WAN The signal drops strength.
  
  For example, in LAN-to-LAN starting on the second floor and working my way to the basement on a specific SSID the strength stays the same throughout.
  
  Doing the same with LAN to WAN, The signal loses strength even if I’m standing right next to the basement router. I have to turn the device Wi-Fi off/on To get it to connect to the basement router Which then shows full strength.
  - 7474
    Tutor
    Dec 07, 2021
    My problem is it the 2.4 and 5 channel transmit via lan-lan throughout the house all levels without loss of strength.
    
    However, both 2.4 and 5 guestonly transmit from the main router and not to the secondary router in LAN-to-LAN.
    
    I set up the second router as an access point last night, however doing so automatically checks the guest work “enable guests to see each other and access local network”. This is something I do not want them to have access to the local network. Set up as a access point, I am able to open the main router via the guest network.

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