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WM21
Mar 21, 2021Aspirant
Migration from OLd Netgear WNR1000-2vcnas router to Nighthawk1900 Router
Hello I have an old NETGEAR WNR1000-2VCNAS router (about 10 yers old) and I would like to mighrate to a newer router, like the Nighthawk AC1900 router. Because of security concenrs in our area, ...
- Mar 23, 2021
> [...] seem people seem convinced that using an html front page is the
> same as using a website.That might be because it's true.
Every web site exists on a computer someplace. The management web
site for a router exists on the computer inside the router. A web site
is a web site. If you're talking to it using a web browser (and
"http[s]://"), then it's a web site. It's not complicated, but some
people seem to have enormous difficulty in grasping this (relatively
simple) concept.> To my mind web = world wide web, not something that happens on your
> local router.You can define these things any way you might wish, but that
particular definition is misleading and unhelpful.
In this case, in particular, realizing that the router's management
web site exists inside the router might help the user to understand
where the router's settings are stored.If you run a web server on a Windows computer on your desktop, is
that also not a web site because it's on your desktop, and not someplace
in the outside world?If you enable Remote Management on your router, so that it's
accessible from the outside world (on the World-Wide Web), does that
magically transform the router's management not-a-web-site into a
management web site?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretzel_Logic
The title fits.
I've given up on trying to use logic to persuade you on this point,
but you might want to avoid trying to confuse innocent bystanders with
this kind of nonsense.
michaelkenward
Mar 23, 2021Guru - Experienced User
WM21 wrote:
I guess I thought the specific settings i entered on line did not get stpored on the oruter itself..
There lies the challenge.
Stuff that you enter into the browser's graphical user interface (GUI) to control the router isn't "on-line" as most of us interpret it, although seem people seem convinced that using an html front page is the same as using a website.
To my mind web = world wide web, not something that happens on your local router.
Some of us are old enough to have been around when Tim Berners-Lee wrote html as a local tool for access to data on a particle accelerator. It was only later that the Internet world pick up Tim's tool for CERN users and deployed it for a different purpose.
A good way to save data you have entered into your old router is to capture the details with screen grabs. If you are really cunning, and have time to spare, you can even optical character recognition to work on those screens and copy and paste text from them back into your new router.
Then again, from time to time it makes sense to begin from scratch. Ditch possibly now redundant saved settings, possibly from things you pensioned off years ago, and start with a clean slate.
Don't get fixated in the "AC" setting of whatever you buy. Home in on what really matters to you.
Try plugging your needs into the filters on the product pages:
Wireless Routers for Home | NETGEAR
and
Orbi: Whole Home WiFi System for Better WiFi Everywhere | NETGEAR
Then check back here for reports on the things you are considering, but remember that people turn up in this community with problems, not compliments. So look at reviews on Amazon, for example.
antinode
Mar 23, 2021Guru
> [...] seem people seem convinced that using an html front page is the
> same as using a website.
That might be because it's true.
Every web site exists on a computer someplace. The management web
site for a router exists on the computer inside the router. A web site
is a web site. If you're talking to it using a web browser (and
"http[s]://"), then it's a web site. It's not complicated, but some
people seem to have enormous difficulty in grasping this (relatively
simple) concept.
> To my mind web = world wide web, not something that happens on your
> local router.
You can define these things any way you might wish, but that
particular definition is misleading and unhelpful.
In this case, in particular, realizing that the router's management
web site exists inside the router might help the user to understand
where the router's settings are stored.
If you run a web server on a Windows computer on your desktop, is
that also not a web site because it's on your desktop, and not someplace
in the outside world?
If you enable Remote Management on your router, so that it's
accessible from the outside world (on the World-Wide Web), does that
magically transform the router's management not-a-web-site into a
management web site?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretzel_Logic
The title fits.
I've given up on trying to use logic to persuade you on this point,
but you might want to avoid trying to confuse innocent bystanders with
this kind of nonsense.