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Ray65PDX
Mar 27, 2023Aspirant
Need help in upgrade solutions
I currently have a Netgear AC1900 R-7000 router that needs replacing, (7 years old). My IPS is Ziply Fiber, and they supplied a NON Coax DSL Modem that I wish to replace with a NON coax DSL or VDSL? ...
plemans
Mar 27, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Why are you going from an AC1900 to a N600 device?
Thats a large step backwards. (big one too)
And why doesn't zipply provide you with an ONT so you can connect whatever router you want to it?
Did you check with them about an ONT or gateway?
Ray65PDX
Mar 27, 2023Aspirant
Thank you for the quick respons....
The N600 was a reference only for the last Non coaxial Modem I saw from Netgear.
What I want is a new Non Coaxial DSL VDSL Modem and Router combo.
Zipply power supply to the house is Non Coax, telephone type connector to their supplied Modem.
I wish to replace their Modem with one I own, and upgrade my old Router. A Modem and Router combo would be ideal, if I could find one with the Non Coax input.
Bottom line, if I cant find the right type of Modem, I'll live with Zipplys and get a new Router. Not ideal for what I want to have, but that's life......
Again, thank you for your insight and knowledge
- KitsapMar 27, 2023Master
Questions for Ziply. Does Ziply allow end user owned modems to connect to their DSL network? If yes, do they have a list of approved devices? If no, it does not matter.
- michaelkenwardMar 28, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Ray65PDX wrote:
A Modem and Router combo would be ideal....
Many experienced users would disagree with that.
Modem/routers have limited choice of router features. For example, you won't find one that can create a Mesh WiFi network.
A better option for many people is to have a separate DSL modem that they can connect to one of the dozens of routers out there. Routers don lt care what you throw at them – cable, DSL or optical fibre, even satellite.
The bad news is that Netgear and most brands seem to have abandoned the market for DSL modem-only devices. Maybe ISPs are leaning on them in the way that they have for cable modems. That certainly happened in the UK where the ISPs were told to supply combined modem/routers.
If you can lay your hands on something like the DM200, that would be a good choice. You can't buy new ones these days. Prices can be silly, but you may be able to lay hands on a second hand one. I bought one from an "open box" merchant. In reality it looked new, with all the usual packing and protection.
One or two modems are available. But as Kitsap says a lot depends on your ISP.
By the way, don't get confused by this "Non Coax input" thing. If it is DSL it is DSL. (ADSL or VDSL.) That is the input that matters. It is, by definition, non coax.
- Ray65PDXMar 28, 2023Aspirant
Thank you for that information, that sort of knowledge I severly lack.....With that said, I wondered if there was an adapter availabe to go from the DSL (RJ45?) to Coax.
Looked on Google and did find one for RJ45 to Male coax adapter for just a few dollars. Seems that should work, to me anyway. So, I will order one, see what happens, and let this particular forum know the results.
Hopefully, this may help you Guru's help another newbie with the same delima.
Thank you one and all for all help given
- FURRYe38Mar 28, 2023Guru - Experienced User
DSL requires the RJ11 phone connection for most DSL modems. Cable modems require the RG6 cable coax line to get services from Cable ISPs. Both are have specific requirements and protocols to make DSL modems or Cable modems work. They are not compatible with each other or cross adapter compatible thus will not work. So you have a DSL ISP service, you'll need a DSL modem specific to DSL ISP services. You'll need a cable modem that supports the Cable ISP services just the same.