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fnl
May 13, 2017Aspirant
Netgear routers: No automatic firmware security updates or user notification system
I have the R7000 and recently, my mail wasn't synchronizing itself, because their server addresses no longer got properly resolved. After a long and ardourous "support-battle" with my professional ma...
- Jun 22, 2017WOOT! I just received an e-mail from Netgear that my Nighthawk routers need updating, due to some security vulnerability. I have absolutely no idea how I activated this mail service, but it certainly is exactly what I wanted. Problem solved!
fnl
May 13, 2017Aspirant
Which isnt to say that other manufacturers (e.g. Peplink/Pepwave) provide solutions.
shamarin
May 13, 2017Virtuoso
I use Netgear routers for more then 5 years and i can say to you that updating is very simple. Also i have an experience of using D-Link, Asus, TP-Link and Zyxel. Netgear updating is very simple and router give an notification when new firmware is available and also Zyxel have the same functionality with the exeption of only program (for Netgear it is Genie app) for Windows and Mac OS.
- fnlMay 13, 2017Aspirant
Now, this NetgearGenie "solution" is even worse: Foremost, I need to maintain routers on several sites, so I'd have to connect to each one with that (or a different?) app over the net, opening an even larger security liability. Indeed, I'd need to enable admin access from the external interface (to the router). Even if only run on the internal interface side, I might consider that setup a security liability: Someone might have hacked my wife's/parent's/friend's computer and is evasdropping on my home network. Or an update might be happening while I'm traveling for a week, so I'd need external interface acces after all to use Genie (or some complex desktop sharing and VPN setup). Etc.
Second, I use Linux (and Mac). And no, I will not run Wine with components from an OS that is even less secure (as we've seen with quite firghtening news just this week again) to get an insecure web-polling mechanism going that augments my network's attack surface.
If you are cozy with your "setup", I'm happy for you. Am I being paranoid? Maybe. Is this possible? Certainly. Whatever, I prefer to not wake up to a bot farm/identity theft/money extortion scheme one day because I did not update my devices. However, "Hey, I've been using the Internet for 10 years now and had no problems; what's your stress?" isn't an answer to me - I've been using the Internet before we had HTTP and I certainly have seen someone with a last-mile connect coming out of China even getting onto one of my machines.
Overall: We live in 2017, security issues abound (Intel, Windows, OSX, Android, you name it... all a liability). So what is wrong with hardware and software manufacturers (like Netgear, apparently) that can't set up secure push notifications for updates and security-related issues for their clients? Even just a plain old mailing list I subscribe to would be enough.
[EDITS: fixing some spelling and text clarity issues]
- fnlMay 13, 2017Aspirant
To further prove my point - just querying for "Netgear" on HackerNews lists a ton of very tough security flaws with their routers (NB that I am not querying for something like "netgear AND security," say). All of that I would miss patching if I don't get secure push notifications at all times.