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Netger R9000 how long to to backup using ReadyShare Vault? It's been running for >20 hours!
I am trying the ReadyShare Vault backup routine on my new NetGear R9000 and just wondered if it should be expected for this to take a LONG time - this is the first backup?
I set it running arou...
> I guess it's possibly backing up somewhere approaching 1TB of data.
> [...]That's not a small amount.
> [...] I'd like to know if this sort of time duration is normal [...]
It may be. You need to consider that you're dealing with the actual
source storage device and the backup software on the Windows system, the
network hardware, the file sharing software running on the
(sub-amazing?) CPU in the router, the USB interface speed, and the
actual destination storage device attached to the router. Many of those
considerations vanish with a destination storage device which is
directly connected to the source system. Without a much more detailed
analysis, I would not bet that the router's USB interface is your
bottleneck.> [...] and if subsequent back-ups are quicker i.e. is it one of these
> systems where subsequent backups only change files that have been
> changed since the last time?
Almost certainly.> [...] NAS [...]
I also wouldn't bet that a "true" NAS system would greatly improve
your times. My NAS experience is limited to small Seagate devices
(NAS 220, and similar -- SATA disks, gigabit Ethernet), and I haven't
done any large transfers to one lately, but I've spent at least a whole
day waiting for an initial (Mac Time Machine) backup (smaller than 1TB)
to finish. Running the experiment would be much more reliable than any
advice you're likely to get here.I _would_ expect a real NAS gizmo to suffer from fewer firmware bugs
than the slapped-together mess of freeware which you'll find for file
sharing on a Netgear router. However, the primary advantage of a real
NAS gizmo is RAID. When your single USB-connected disk fails, you
typically lose all the data on it. When a disk fails in a RAID system,
you don't.
I sense I have struck a deep nerve, which is rather a shame as I bought Netgear in the belief that as far as routers went they were the dogs proverbials - or at least that's what I was told. I must admit that I'd been trying to avoid a NAS system as someone once told me they were quite costly to run from an electricty standpoint. I wanted a media server having been completely misled and had a lot of time wasted by Amazon music who then deleted all my personal music anyway after claiming they wouldn't. Due to the costs involved in running a NAS I set up a Raspberry Pi Plex server with my Seagate drive and did have all that up and running well including integration with an Amazon Echo system that someone gifted me. Then I recently got the Nighthawk X10 and when I saw it included the ability to run the Plex server and I would not need to plug in the additional RPi or powered USB hub I installed the Plex system and transferred over to the Nighthawk for Plex server functionality. Trying the USB Nighthawk router backup on a second USB plugged drive just seemed to me the natural progression and it's rather disappointing to find how much system resource its taking. I am letting it complete as I type its up to 96% - yes it is taking days! and hoping that it just then just logs file changes into the future and that might take less time. I do really need a reliable back-up system in-house as I don't trust the security of a 'cloud' based system and I guess if push comes to shove I might have to consider one of these true NAS systems, but I've been looking at them online this morning - don't they take up a lot of space - almost as much as my desktop tower box computer? I'm looking at my tiny 4"x5" Seagate drive and thinking 'if only!'
> I guess it's possibly backing up somewhere approaching 1TB of data.
> [...]
That's not a small amount.
> [...] I'd like to know if this sort of time duration is normal [...]
It may be. You need to consider that you're dealing with the actual
source storage device and the backup software on the Windows system, the
network hardware, the file sharing software running on the
(sub-amazing?) CPU in the router, the USB interface speed, and the
actual destination storage device attached to the router. Many of those
considerations vanish with a destination storage device which is
directly connected to the source system. Without a much more detailed
analysis, I would not bet that the router's USB interface is your
bottleneck.
> [...] and if subsequent back-ups are quicker i.e. is it one of these
> systems where subsequent backups only change files that have been
> changed since the last time?
Almost certainly.
> [...] NAS [...]
I also wouldn't bet that a "true" NAS system would greatly improve
your times. My NAS experience is limited to small Seagate devices
(NAS 220, and similar -- SATA disks, gigabit Ethernet), and I haven't
done any large transfers to one lately, but I've spent at least a whole
day waiting for an initial (Mac Time Machine) backup (smaller than 1TB)
to finish. Running the experiment would be much more reliable than any
advice you're likely to get here.
I _would_ expect a real NAS gizmo to suffer from fewer firmware bugs
than the slapped-together mess of freeware which you'll find for file
sharing on a Netgear router. However, the primary advantage of a real
NAS gizmo is RAID. When your single USB-connected disk fails, you
typically lose all the data on it. When a disk fails in a RAID system,
you don't.
I get good file transfers with my Synology NAS. Also like the safety of mirrored drives which you do not have with USB on a router. You really should try a true NAS sometime.
> I get good file transfers with my Synology NAS. [...]
As I suggested above, backup involves more than "file transfers".
> [...] You really should [...]
_Who_ "really should"? This isn't a private message service.
antinode wrote:
> I get good file transfers with my Synology NAS. [...]
As I suggested above, backup involves more than "file transfers".
> [...] You really should [...]
_Who_ "really should"? This isn't a private message service.
Have done backups as well. Works better then anything you will get via a router USB solution. NAS is built for backups/file transfers. Routers this is an after thought.
And I like my 2 QNAPs.
Synology and QNAP both make great NAS devices
shadowsports wrote:
And I like my 2 QNAPs.
Synology and QNAP both make great NAS devices
Yup my Synology just runs. No issues of any kind.
