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New R7000 Firmware Version 1.0.11.100
It's been a while but finally NG has released a new firmware for R7000! :smileyhappy: R7000 Firmware V1.0.11.100_10.2.100 Download: https://kb.netgear.com/000061805/R7000-Firmware-Version-1-0...
It's entirely hypothetical, but the firmware issues might be affecting older routers disproportionately. From what users on this forum have indicated, these R7000 units have been made in different factories in different countries, some in China, some in Vietnam.
Just because one router looks identical to another doesn't necessarily mean that the components used inside are identical. Over the years, electronics and components change. I'd be surprised if a router made 5 years ago and one made within the last 12 months stripped down side by side, would be utilizing exactly the same electronic components. There have been advancements in WiFi tech and components over the years. Who's to say that the wireless components used haven't altered between batches built between 2014 and 2020? This may or may not have a bearing on whether firmware updates will have the same degree of success between identical models of different manufacturing years from different factories. Maybe this is the reason why my own router for example, isn't suffering any ill effects at all from the latest firmware update.
Portwey84 wrote:
It's entirely hypothetical, but the firmware issues might be affecting older routers disproportionately. From what users on this forum have indicated, these R7000 units have been made in different factories in different countries, some in China, some in Vietnam.
Just because one router looks identical to another doesn't necessarily mean that the components used inside are identical. Over the years, electronics and components change. I'd be surprised if a router made 5 years ago and one made within the last 12 months stripped down side by side, would be utilizing exactly the same electronic components. There have been advancements in WiFi tech and components over the years. Who's to say that the wireless components used haven't altered between batches built between 2014 and 2020? This may or may not have a bearing on whether firmware updates will have the same degree of success between identical models of different manufacturing years from different factories. Maybe this is the reason why my own router for example, isn't suffering any ill effects at all from the latest firmware update.
The fact there are routers like the R7000 that allow you to choose which OS to run on it, like you would any other computer is something I enjoy.
I may like the hardware spects of both a computer, or even a router in this case, but may have issues, or just not like the stock firmware/ os.
The issue I have with most consumer routers has mainly been, the quality of the hardware, and / or firmware / os.
In the case of the R7000 I first tried FreshTomato firmware, as suggested on this thread, but that wasn't a good fit, and I had issues with speed. So, I went back to DD-WRT, which I had run on my R7000 last year for several months straight. After going back, I regained great speed and stability, and because DD-WRT doesn't support WPS, I don't even have that functionality anymore to deal with, which was another ocmplaint here on this thread. At the end of the day, for me, I considder my issues resolved at no cost to me, other than time, to manually configure settings stock firmware either doesn't have, or try to do for you, and also reading about settings and how to set them.
With this said, I plan to do this the more professional way when I needs a physical new router, by getting a wired only router, and a seperate asccess point so I don't have to depend on one device for both, especially if there are wireless problems than it won't take down the whole network to fix. (At least, it shouldn't)
- I'm all for experimenting with 3rd party firmware. My issue is with Netgear sending out an official firmware update that hasn't been properly tested. Also, if Netgear has different hardware in different revisions of the r7000 then they should have made a different model number with different firmware all together. I guess I'm just frustrated beings that the wife and I are both working from home and rely on wifi. I just struggle to accept this result after installing an official firmware from the manufacturer that made the device, that's all I'm saying.
Bottz wrote:
Also, if Netgear has different hardware in different revisions of the r7000 then they should have made a different model number with different firmware all together.It is called the R7000P.
- I understand that Netgear has different models with different firmwares. It sounds like people think that there are different variations of the r7000 with different hardware. This could explain why some people have success with the latest firmware and why some don't. Either way, this all come down to Netgear doing a poor job testing their firmware before releasing, otherwise I would have a usable router on 1.0.11.100.
Bottz To be absolutley clear neither I nor anyone else knows whether or not Netgear have specified different internal components to the exact same model of router since it was first introduced. Car manufacturers make changes to components on vehicles on the assembly line. It's perfectly possible to have two identical cars made on the same production line several weeks apart that might have had changes implemented, either through modification necessity or a change of supplier, that is why when you go to purchase a part for a vehicle, you should always supply the VIN number of the vehicle. This is why personally I'm doubtful that my 2019 built R7000 AC1900 router has the exact same identical hardware in it as one that was built in 2014/15/16 or 17. Only a full strip down of one that came out of the factory last week against one built 5 or 6 years ago is going to provide that definitive answer.
If there have been component changes since the first R7000 AC1900 model was produced a few years back, then we as users will never know. It could even be that Netgear when they produce a firmware update aren't aware that component changes might cause firmware update issues between routers of the exact same model several years apart. You'd think Netgear would be aware through extensive testing but we don't know what their internal testing procedures of the firmware are. They might be testing the firmware on a router that's only a few weeks old from the factory, not one that was produced six years ago.
At the end of the day, users do at least have a choice whether or not to update the firmware on their kit, but if a firmware is offered by the manufacturer, then it should be tested thoroughly on different production year models (of the EXACT same model) to ensure there are no bugs. Netgear don't delete all older firmware from their own support pages each time they release a new firmware. On the one hand, they're offering an update with 'fixed' security patches but on the same page, they're giving users the opportunity to rollback to an older firmware still stuck(I'm assuming) with the same security flaws that they have allegedly fixed on newer updates. It confuses the bejeebys out of me if I'm honest!
And to make things absolutely clear, I'm solely referring here to the R7000 AC1900, not the R7000P. Although similar, they are different models of router providing different specs.
Portwey84 wrote:
And to make things absolutely clear, I'm solely referring here to the R7000 AC1900, not the R7000P. Although similar, they are different models of router providing different specs.
Different brand of core chipsets.
