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bobknipper
Jun 22, 2024Aspirant
Nighthawk AC1900 DST
 I have been using a Nighthawk AC1900 DST Router that was given to me by  my son for about a year. A few days ago I had a brief power outage.  I use port forwarding to access my home alarm system and ...
- Jun 28, 2024Sorry I miss spoke, I meant Windows 10 and 11. The Spectrum UBEE's WIFI 
 is shut off by Spectrum. They want around $9 a month to use the WIFI
 built into the UBEE. I figure that I would rather use my own router and
 use the money to buy my router. I have been using it this way for about 5 years without any problems. As I understand it I can't use the AP mode because
 I can't port forward which I need for my alarm. Now that I understand what happened and how to work around the problem I will stay with what has worked.
 Thanks for the help.
michaelkenward
Jun 25, 2024Guru - Experienced User
bobknipper wrote:
It is a
R7300 V1. It is behind a Time warner UBEE modem,router.
This is a classic two-router gotcha.
Two routers on your network can cause headaches. For example, you can end up with local problems with addresses on your network. Among other things, the other router can misdirect traffic to addresses that the Netgear router usually handles, such as routerlogin.net or the usual default IP address for a router, 192.168.1.1.
This explains some of the other drawbacks.
What is Double NAT? | Answer | NETGEAR Support
Unless you have specific reasons for using two routers – to create two separate networks for example – it is often easier to use just one router and then to set up the second router as a wifi access point (AP) with a wired connection to the main router. Netgear advises this, as does just about every site you will visit.
How do I change my NETGEAR router to AP mode? | Answer | NETGEAR Support
But that has its own drawbacks:
Disabled Features on the Router when set to AP Mode | Answer | NETGEAR Support
It may be possible to put the modem/router into modem only (bridge) mode and then to use the second device as the router.
I was using a Windows 12 laptop with the WIFI disabled so that I wouldn't access the backup router I was using, a R6700 V3.
Yet another router? Regardless, the same NAT thing applies. You will have a hard time accessing its GUI. Find the IP address of the thing on the network and use that in a browser.
Not sure where you got Window 12 from, I am stuck on Windows 11, one of the beta channels, but it does raise the spectre of Windows security.
Windows likes to protect us from new networks that might be evil. In reality, it often shuts us out of safe networks, wired and/or wifi.
One thought is that you could tell Windows that you are on a "private network".
- Network and Internet settings
- Network Status
- Change Connection Properties
- Network Profile
- Private
bobknipper
Jun 28, 2024Aspirant
Sorry I miss spoke, I meant Windows 10 and 11. The Spectrum UBEE's WIFI
is shut off by Spectrum. They want around $9 a month to use the WIFI
built into the UBEE. I figure that I would rather use my own router and
use the money to buy my router. I have been using it this way for about 5 years without any problems. As I understand it I can't use the AP mode because
I can't port forward which I need for my alarm. Now that I understand what happened and how to work around the problem I will stay with what has worked.
Thanks for the help.