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geoffleach
Jun 20, 2018Aspirant
R7000 Nighthawk
Laptop looses 1/3 of wifi signal strength when the laptop moves through a door. Distance to router at that point is 10 feet. Wall is conventional wood-framed. On both sides of the wal there are fully...
- Jun 20, 2018
Sounds about right to me. From what you describe the wifi is going through a wall plus two layers of books plus steel shelving. Remember wifi does not go around corners.
antinode
Jun 20, 2018Guru
> [...] Remember wifi does not go around corners.
This would make them the first EM waves ever not to experience
diffraction.
myersw
Jun 21, 2018Master
antinode wrote:
> [...] Remember wifi does not go around corners.
This would make them the first EM waves ever not to experience
diffraction.
True, but remember that signals that spread or bounce are not going to provide as good of a signal as nothing inbetween.
- michaelkenwardJun 21, 2018Guru - Experienced User
And diffraction is not "going round corners" as most people understand it, just a red herring from someone who would rather throw in a cheap jibe than follow the issue.
Back to the point, following your earlier response, we don't know which wifi band the user has on the laptop. If they are on 5 GHz, 2.4 GHz might give better range.
Nor do we know if this signal loss affects their experience. Maybe they have just found a signal meter and want to play with numbers.
- antinodeJun 21, 2018Guru
> And diffraction is not "going round corners" as most people understand
> it, just a red herring from someone who would rather throw in a cheap
> jibe than follow the issue.
Thanks for your latest unsubstantiated assessment of what "most
people understand". It's every bit as valuable as the equipment
inventory which you include in each of your posts. I would not expect
"most people" to have a firm grasp on diffraction, but a quick Web
search for key words/phrases like, say:
diffraction "around corners"
might be educational for those who are susceptible to education. (Hint:
I'd expect "around corners" to work better than "round corners" in such
a search.)- myerswJun 21, 2018Master
antinode wrote:
> And diffraction is not "going round corners" as most people understand
> it, just a red herring from someone who would rather throw in a cheap
> jibe than follow the issue.
Thanks for your latest unsubstantiated assessment of what "most
people understand". It's every bit as valuable as the equipment
inventory which you include in each of your posts. I would not expect
"most people" to have a firm grasp on diffraction, but a quick Web
search for key words/phrases like, say:
diffraction "around corners"
might be educational for those who are susceptible to education. (Hint:
I'd expect "around corners" to work better than "round corners" in such
a search.)Simple reason for the inventory. Had ugly experience with both a r8000 and a r8000p firmware wise. Netgear used to be my go to vendor, however with the recent experience of two different products with less the adequate firmware, should not have drops or require reboots to keep running. I want a stable network at my house otherwise it gets ugly. I could not provide that with the above routers either with Netgear firmware or DD-WRT (Kong for the r8000). I am not doing anything fancy. No VPN, no NAS support, just simple router/wireless support.So what would you do keep getting hit over the head with Internet issues or take the simple route of getting a router that will provide a stable network? In my case the solution was a Asus rt-ac86u running RMerlin firmware. Up for 38 days without a drop or anyother issue. Last reboot was a firmware update. I could not get that kind of reliability out of the two Netgear routers that I plan on putting on Ebay. Want one will make a good price make me an offer. So to keep sig honest I list the Asus. ;)
- geoffleachJun 21, 2018Aspirant
Preferred connection is 5GHz. I ran a test with 2.4, and the connection dropped from 70% to 65%
- michaelkenwardJun 21, 2018Guru - Experienced User
geoffleach wrote:
I ran a test with 2.4, and the connection dropped from 70% to 65%
But what does that mean? The speed dropped? The signal level fell?
I mistrust simple numbers that don't demonstrate what really matters, the throughput you get between client and source. Even that is a suspect number.
2.4 GHz travels further than 5 GHz. There will be a time when the 5 GHz signal fades away and slows down. The 2.4 GHz signal hangs in there and when the 5 GHz channel is struggling to stay connected, 2.4 GHz soldiers on.
The R7000 supports "smart connect" which is supposed to enable a seamless connection with the wif clients latching on to the best signal.
Then again, a lot depends on that wifi clients. Your router may be delivering the best wifi signal possible, but if your wifi client is an ancient bit of hardware, it will struggle. As the saying goes, "it takes two to wifi".
PS Don't feed the trolls.
- geoffleachJun 21, 2018Aspirant
Definitely not just playing around :-(
The experience in question is the dropping of the internet connection. As it happens, there is another laptop with a hard-wired connection, so I know that when the laptop user is complaining that its not the internet that's the problem/