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geoffleach
Jun 20, 2018Aspirant
R7000 Nighthawk
Laptop looses 1/3 of wifi signal strength when the laptop moves through a door. Distance to router at that point is 10 feet. Wall is conventional wood-framed. On both sides of the wal there are fully...
- Jun 20, 2018
Sounds about right to me. From what you describe the wifi is going through a wall plus two layers of books plus steel shelving. Remember wifi does not go around corners.
michaelkenward
Jun 21, 2018Guru - Experienced User
And diffraction is not "going round corners" as most people understand it, just a red herring from someone who would rather throw in a cheap jibe than follow the issue.
Back to the point, following your earlier response, we don't know which wifi band the user has on the laptop. If they are on 5 GHz, 2.4 GHz might give better range.
Nor do we know if this signal loss affects their experience. Maybe they have just found a signal meter and want to play with numbers.
geoffleach
Jun 21, 2018Aspirant
Preferred connection is 5GHz. I ran a test with 2.4, and the connection dropped from 70% to 65%
- michaelkenwardJun 21, 2018Guru - Experienced User
geoffleach wrote:
I ran a test with 2.4, and the connection dropped from 70% to 65%
But what does that mean? The speed dropped? The signal level fell?
I mistrust simple numbers that don't demonstrate what really matters, the throughput you get between client and source. Even that is a suspect number.
2.4 GHz travels further than 5 GHz. There will be a time when the 5 GHz signal fades away and slows down. The 2.4 GHz signal hangs in there and when the 5 GHz channel is struggling to stay connected, 2.4 GHz soldiers on.
The R7000 supports "smart connect" which is supposed to enable a seamless connection with the wif clients latching on to the best signal.
Then again, a lot depends on that wifi clients. Your router may be delivering the best wifi signal possible, but if your wifi client is an ancient bit of hardware, it will struggle. As the saying goes, "it takes two to wifi".
PS Don't feed the trolls.
- geoffleachJun 21, 2018Aspirant
michaelkenward wrote:
geoffleach wrote:
I ran a test with 2.4, and the connection dropped from 70% to 65%
But what does that mean? The speed dropped? The signal level fell?
It's the signal level, AKAIK.
As reported by the nm-applet that runs as part of the NetworkManager subsystem running on Linux Fedora 25
- myerswJun 21, 2018Master
PS Don't feed the trolls.
I am not a troll as such. If you check I have given lots of helpfull info to folks with problems. Even have kudo even for the help I provided. So I am here to help, but I am also going to be honest with my personal experience with a r8000 and r8000p. Want to buy one or both? They are up for sale. Give me an offer.
- michaelkenwardJun 22, 2018Guru - Experienced User
myersw wrote:
PS Don't feed the trolls.
I am not a troll as such.
I would never accuse you of being a troll. You stick to the point and don't try to score points off, or belittle, anyone.
Sadly, this is not true of everyone.
I understand the problems with the R8000 and R8000P. Netgear seems to come up with some wonky devices from time to time. The R7000 is essentially its "flagship" product in the mid-price range, selling better than anything else, and my experience with the R7000P, albeit it with off piste firmware, suggests that it is a step backwards.
The router that gets the most praise at the moment seems to be the R7800, which I certainly prefer over the R7000P.
I agree with your observations on the wifi thing. But I am the school that goes on experience of how things are working rather than measuring signal strengths. Of course, this means that I have to cast aside what I learned in my days as a research physicist, but life is too short to be throwing equations at a router. If it works, fine. I start worrying when things go wrong.
PS Sorry, I am not in the market for yet another router, even if they come with health warnings! Thought about using one as an access point? It could make your wifi go "round" corners.