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Brownk
Oct 27, 2022Aspirant
R7800 Non-Responsive
I am having trouble accessing my R7000 Router.
We experienced a power failure and I turned off our DSL Modem/Router and R7000 Router and disconnected power. When the electricity came back on, ...
Brownk
Oct 28, 2022Aspirant
I generally have not been using the ISP equipment with the R7800, since the trouble began, because it will not work. I have been using a computer that is not connected to the Internet.
Don’t get me started on AT&T. That would lead to a very long tirade. Unfortunately, they as usual, are the cheapest internet in our area. They are the only wired, also.
We have been on the same account for sixteen years. Seems DSL went legacy almost a decade ago. Other than AT&T wired, it is all wireless or satellite.
I complained to AT&T that our Neighbors were spoofing our internet. Finally caught a neighbor spoofing via capturing their router using our SSID. Even tough I had a screen print, they would do nothing without something from law enforcement.
Our original ISP Modem died (Siemens Soundstream?). Since we were on legacy status, we bought the Netgear DM111PSPv2 as a replacement. The AT&T unit was expensive and we our on legacy status!
In the years past, still having problems, I contacted AT&T support. I figured our Network was still being spoofed. I asked whether we showed as being connected to the AT&T Server and we were, but it showed no activity even though I was on the internet. That is why I have the AT&T ISP Netgear 7550. The Support Tech was alarmed and sent me a free unit. Something they had refused to do in the past.
From what I can tell, AT&T buys discontinued equipment and installs their own firmware on the unit.
We always used non-wireless via Ethernet. In 2017, my Wife got an iPad, so we needed a Wi-Fi Router. We chose an AirPort Extreme hooked up to the Netgear DM111PSPv2. It was being spoofed (noted above). Started using the ISP supplied Netgear 7550, but it had spotty performance, so we bought the Netgear R7800 and went back to the DM111PSPv2. Started experiencing disconnects, recently, and decided to try the R7800 behind the ISP Netgear 7550. Now, as per this thread, the R7800 is not working.
Years ago, all DSL Modem based units disappeared in unity. Conspiracy?
michaelkenward
Oct 28, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Brownk wrote:
Years ago, all DSL Modem based units disappeared in unity. Conspiracy?
Indeed. But not a conspiracy by Netgear.
Anyone familiar with cable internet knows that ISPs insist on having control over modems. They are the only ones that can update firmware. Neither Netgear nor users have any control.
Talking to the network operator behind by my Internet service, I gather that they have told ISPs to provide customers with modem/router combinations. As a result, there are very few modem only options in the DSL market.
By good luck I got a Netgear DM200 just before they went off the shelves. When I wanted a second DM200, for my other line, I managed to get one of those "opened box" offerings.
These things come up from time to time at reasonable prices on the usual on-line second-hand store.
I use an R7800 with one of these.
I complained to AT&T that our Neighbors were spoofing our internet. Finally caught a neighbor spoofing via capturing their router using our SSID. Even tough I had a screen print, they would do nothing without something from law enforcement.
The usual way to deal with that is to use a strong password and then to set the router to block all unknown devices from connecting to the wifi.
You can also hide the SSID, but that will not keep out a truly determined, and technically competent, intruder.
- BrownkOct 28, 2022Aspirant
This thread has seemed to of moved beyond its intent.
Regarding the security aspects, we use a long chaotic password, a VPN to force encryption and did have thing’s setup so only known MAC addresses were allowed access. The truth is that there is too many parties involved that can exploit your privacy. Whether Netgear is trustworthy was not questioned. By design, there are just numerous angles of possible intrusion. I have never had any degree of trust. If we made internet purchases, we finalize purchases by calling in our credit card. Now, that has become hard to do.
Common sense says the internet needs to be secure. An insecure internet undermines the whole system. From a business standpoint, it is counter productive.
Those in power can create “holes”, but those “holes” will be exploited by others beyond them. It is already happening.
Is there really such thing as a secure internet? Unfortunately everything, it seems, has been attached to it. All the more reason for it to be secured. It is a huge philosophical conversation that touches on almost all aspects of human nature. Thing’s better discussed elsewhere.
I just want to my router to function!