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tano26
Mar 20, 2020Tutor
R7960P firmware not upgrading
I have attempted multiple times to upgrade my current firmware, V1.4.1.44_1.3.5, to V1.4.1.50_1.3.10 and it fails. I have tried letting the router update itself and also downloading upgrade zip file ...
Zero_c00l
Mar 24, 2020Star
Yeah I have the same problem. it tries to upgrade and after reboot it's still on the previous firmware (V1.4.1.44_1.3.5). You wouldthink Netgear test the upgrade file before publishing it, but I guess not!!!
- DarrenMMar 25, 2020Sr. NETGEAR Moderator
I have escalated this issue to engineering to investigate.
DarrenM
- IdahoScottApr 05, 2020Apprentice
Tried applying R7960P-V1.4.1.50_1.3.10 once again. No joy.
This issue has been active now for at least four, maybe five weeks. It appears to me that whatever the issue is, the Netgear engineers cannot, or will not provide a fix. Your best hope is just to wait for the next update, which *** "might" *** work, and apply as designed. If the next one fails, I'm going to reset my router (which should install the original firmware), start over, and see if the new version applies. The problem may not be with V1.4.1.50_1.3.10, but the previous version (in my case, V1.4.1.44_1.3.5). The prior version may be have a bug which prevents new updates from applying.
Again, as I have posted before, if Netgear has a widespread problem with one of their updates (i.e. "widespread"; just google V1.4.1.50_1.3.10 and see how many hits you find), they should recall it, or at least, post some sort of notice on their web site indicating "Hey, we know we have this problem, we're working on a fix, probably in 10 days, just remain on your current router firmware version for now.", or words to that effect. "Crickets" for a response is pretty damning PR for a technology company.
- CarrezeeApr 13, 2020Guide
Thanks. It good when a company stands behind it's products.
DarrenM wrote:I have escalated this issue to engineering to investigate.
DarrenM
DarrenM wrote:I have escalated this issue to engineering to investigate.
DarrenM
- IdahoScottApr 14, 2020Apprentice
Carrezee wrote:
Thanks. It good when a company stands behind it's products.
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DarrenM wrote:I have escalated this issue to engineering to investigate.
DarrenM
Carrezee,You're being too generous, or perhaps, sarcastic?
Darren forwarded this to "engineering to investigate" almost 3 weeks ago. This firmware version (V1.4.1.50_1.3.10) was released as early as November 2019, and problems were reported almost immediately, judging from a quick Google search.
1) Netgear knows that there are problems with this firmware release, and has known about it for at least five months.
2) Netgear has been completely NON-RESPONSIVE to EVERY inquiry about the problem.
3) It was nice of Darren to forward this thread to the engineers, almost 3 weeks ago, but have you seen any other replies? Do a support search (or Google, which seems to return even more hits than Netgear's own search engine), and you'll find MANY threads about this problem software.
I hope that whatever security bugs this version was supposed to fix, were not serious, because otherwise, hundreds of thousands (maybe milions) of Netgear customers are screwed. I've been pretty understanding and patient about this up until now, because I had thought that this version was just released in early March. I've said that Netgear should have rolled back this release already, until they can resolve the problems. However, now that I'm discovering that it was out as far back as last November, I'm done using or buying Netgear equipment. We place a whole lot of trust using their network routers. A compromised network could be financially damaging to just about anyone who connect to a it.
I'm not just the average consumer blowing smoke, either. I'm a professional who has been working with advanced networks and other technology since 1985. I've used Netgear equipment almost exclusively since the 1990's. I'm nobody from nowhere, but Netgear lost this nobody as a customer.
Their non-responsiveness to this issue, is absolutely rediculous. It tells you everything that you need to know about the integrity and quality of this company.
- SamSundaraJun 07, 2020Guide
Hello DarrenM (NETGEAR Moderator),
Based on your response I see that "you have escalated this issue to engineering to investigate."
Do you have update form your engineering, please let us know as soon as you can.
Thanks
- Juice_22Jun 07, 2020StarI wouldn’t hold my breath to get a response. Netgear has been terrible on supporting this product. I opened a Case 2 months ago and they have been silent on resolving this. They last responded to me about a month ago.
I’ve since moved on to TP-Link. It’s been solid. Unfortunately I can no longer recommend to anyone to use any Netgear product. The TP-Link comes with a 2 year warranty and lifetime built in Network level Anti-Virus and Anti-malware protection.
- labattMar 25, 2020Mentor
Zero_c00l wrote:Yeah I have the same problem. it tries to upgrade and after reboot it's still on the previous firmware (V1.4.1.44_1.3.5). You wouldthink Netgear test the upgrade file before publishing it, but I guess not!!!
You would hope the firmware was tested before posting. For the time I had a r8000 and r8000p I never got firmware that was bug free. In fact the same bugs existed firmware version after firmware version. Some say the firmware is farmed out to a 3rd party off shore. In any case there does not seem to be any testing or QA of the firmware before ship other then to see that it will load onto the router. There are bugs that are a year old and still are not fixed. I, personally, gave up on Netgear and went else where. More toward the commercial side. Lose things like parental controls when you do that, but I do not have any kids here to worry about.
- Zero_c00lMar 26, 2020Star
- Zero_c00lMar 26, 2020Star
this is my first time trying Netgear router, and I just realized the free support ends three month after you register the product and there is no email or any kind of support to report the firmware bug. You have to come to their forum and beg for attention. what brand are you using now?
- JchalupsSep 26, 2020Guide
Having same issue. Nighthawk Netgear support has failed me on previous router. This one is from July purchase to replace the June one that burned on the desk. Now, this worked fine until the Sept 2020 upgrades of firmware. Help!
Zero_c00l wrote:this is my first time trying Netgear router, and I just realized the free support ends three month after you register the product and there is no email or any kind of support to report the firmware bug. You have to come to their forum and beg for attention. what brand are you using now?
- JchalupsSep 26, 2020Guide
I'm about ready to dump Netgear as well. Unstable. Now, firmware will not load. Thus, my extender and main Nighthawk now go on and off. Is there a way to update? I'm baffled. This last upgrade for firmware is days old. I have to work from home for a living. I only have so many more vacation days.
labatt wrote:
Zero_c00l wrote:Yeah I have the same problem. it tries to upgrade and after reboot it's still on the previous firmware (V1.4.1.44_1.3.5). You wouldthink Netgear test the upgrade file before publishing it, but I guess not!!!
You would hope the firmware was tested before posting. For the time I had a r8000 and r8000p I never got firmware that was bug free. In fact the same bugs existed firmware version after firmware version. Some say the firmware is farmed out to a 3rd party off shore. In any case there does not seem to be any testing or QA of the firmware before ship other then to see that it will load onto the router. There are bugs that are a year old and still are not fixed. I, personally, gave up on Netgear and went else where. More toward the commercial side. Lose things like parental controls when you do that, but I do not have any kids here to worry about.
- RobertD6Mar 27, 2020Initiate
R7960P user here also.
I've downloaded and tried pushing R7960P-V1.4.1.50_1.3.10.chk directly on an ethernet connection.
No error during the firmware upgrade process but after a reboot the R7960P shows
Firmware Version
V1.4.1.44_1.3.5and prompts:
A router firmware upgrade is available.