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th3steg
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Dec 23, 2021
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R8000 slow internet speeds

I appreciated there are many posts within these forums around similar, and I have read so much, yet nothing has worked so far.

 

The story is a VirginMedia contract on 350MB fiber with a SuperHub3,   I could not say if when on 200MB I could see whole speeds but can say since the upgrade to 350MB I have dropped to 60-90mb via the R8000.

 

My setup is I have the SuperHub3 in modem only mode, and then the R8000 as my primary LAN and Wifi,   all connections via the R8000 are not seeing the full speed,  if I take the VirginMedia SuperHub3 out of modem mode,  and connect any of the same devices I get true 300-350MB at all times.

 

I have rolled back from Firmware Version - V1.0.4.76_10.1.82 to both V1.0.4.18_10.1.49 and V1.0.4.68_10.1.75 following advice from other posts within these threads,   but sadly nothing has worked so far.

 

I have factory reset twice,  ensured QoS is off,  no guest connections, switched off parental controls as a test, and nothing has worked.

 

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as don’t want to take out the R8000 to get a true speed.

 

Thanks

 

  • th3steg's avatar
    th3steg
    Jan 01, 2022

    HI michaelkenward 

     

    Sorry, I was not using the app for the diagnostics for this issue, I am using a browser directly to the IP, so GUI or Dashboard is what I call the other services I own and support on my network.

     

    Anyways I have a result from it all to share, spoke to Netgear support via the phone and after some attempts on fixes, cable swap out and firmware upgrades/downgrades it came down to the hardware itself being to a fault. A replacement Nighthawk is on its way.

     

    In case it aids anyone reading this, here is what we did over the phone (and Michaelkenward, it does echo what you said also)

     

    1. Check a couple of cables are 1GB capable, check on another system that they show as 1GB connection, using either your original router setup, mine being a Virginmedia SuperHub3, or the Nighthawk on one of the LAN(Black) ports, not the WAN (Yellow) If the cables are 1GB move to next step.

     

    (As a side note to this, don't assume Cat5 means 1GB without testing. Older versions of Cat5 are not, always check, I am using Cat7, and have a 10GB backbone using SFP+ over fibre connections between switches and still was getting <100MB broadband speeds )

     

    2. Anyways, Switch off the Nighthawk, and using one of your known 1GB cables connect to your Virginmedia SuperHub via your computer and set VMSuperHub3 into Modem only mode.

     

    3. Once the Superhub3 is rebooting and setting up, now take the cable out of your computer but leave it in Router and use this 1GB cable to connect NightHawk to Modem and switch on NighHawk. (Wait 5 minutes)

     

    4. Now connect your PC using another known 1GB cable to your Nighthawk and reboot your computer, reboot not always needed but advised). I was then advised to use Web Browser to log in to the Nighthawk, open the web browser and type 192.168.1.1 then when prompted enter your login details, do not use the App at this stage. 

     

    5. There was no requirement to reset Nighthawk before this stage but if you have then followed onscreen instructions to set up, change password etc, once logged into Nighthawk - Click advanced - Internet Port - Show Statistics - and see what speed your WAN connection is showing - "IT" should be 1000MB, if not and it shows 100MB then issue still present.

     

    6. We then checked in the same location, under Show Statistics, that the PC was showing 1000MB from PC to Nighthawk (LAN), and as it was, to then swap this cable from PC and replace the one used for the WAN connection to Modem, and then taking the cable used for the original WAN to Modem, to be used on the PC, basically take out both cables and exchange. Then check the speeds on the Nighthawk again, PC was showing again as 1000MB but WAN was still 100MB.

     

    7. The final steps were to flash the Firmware, advised that as I had tried previous versions there was no need to do this, but this could be worth trying for others. My Nighthawk was on the latest version, but we downloaded the latest version and flashed the firmware manually. We waited for around 5 minutes again and checked the speeds.

     

    8. Sadly, my issue remained at WAN 100MB, and I have a new unit on its way as a replacement, But it's worth noting here that I believe the above should have fixed the issue and it does all stem from cabling and having the right cable.

     

    9. Further to this, the replacement, I was out of warranty by 5 months, but was informed there was an option to pay £50 for six months cover, this was only chargeable if they were able to fix the issue, and if not and a new unit was sent then there was no charge. I was more than willing to pay the money as I had tried everything to resolve the issue, but Netgear being who they are they are true to their equipment and sending out a replacement.

     

    10. Hope this helps anyone out there, and once again thank you Michaelkenward for your continued support and checking back and keeping my thread alive.

     

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    Ok with digging around and noticed the WAN speed is down to 100mb,  hence why I am not seeing anything over the 90+ mark within the network.   So thought this is it, replaced the cable with one tested and known to be 1GB and still does not go beyond the 100mb limit as shown in the pic above.

     

    I've searched for anything to relate to changing the link speed but not coming up with anything,  so question is how, is it possible on the R8000?,  its not the cable so has to be within the router.

     

    Thoughts,,  anyone?,  NetGear support you out there!

    • schumaku's avatar
      schumaku
      Guru - Experienced User

      Gigabit Ethernet and faster is mandatory making use of auto negotiation only by the specs.

       

      Hard to say ... bad connector on the R8000 WAN/Internet port? Incompatibility between the Smart Hub 3 in Modem Mode and the R8000 Gigabit ports?

      • michaelkenward's avatar
        michaelkenward
        Guru - Experienced User

        schumaku wrote:

         

         

        Hard to say ... bad connector on the R8000 WAN/Internet port? Incompatibility between the Smart Hub 3 in Modem Mode and the R8000 Gigabit ports?


        Makes sense.

         

        But backtrack. Try the simplest of options.

         

        After yet another reset on the R8000 – leave the modem alone – restart the network in the right order:

         

        As this is a router, there is probably a modem sitting in front of it. You need to get the devices to forget any inherited settings. Among other things, that means rebooting the network.

        Power cuts usually take out both the modem and the router on a network. When the power comes back on, they may start up in the wrong order, with the router starting before the modem is ready. That means that they get confused about which is in charge.

        Be sure to restart your network in this sequence:

        • Turn off and unplug modem.
        • Turn off router and computers.
        • Plug in and turn on modem. Wait 2 minutes for it to connect.
        • Turn on the router and wait 2 minutes for it to connect.
        • Turn on computers and rest of network.

         

        An alternative that does not need a reset would be to take the router through the Internet setup wizard.

         

        The logic behind all of this is that the router needs to see the modem and how it has connected to the Internet so that it can negotiate the right settings.

         

        Sadly, we cannot randomly turn stuff on the network on and off and expect the network to optimise the settings every time.

         

        If that fails, it is back what schumaku suggests. Some freaky incompatibility.