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WhiskeyJack
Mar 05, 2021Tutor
R8000P not producing gigabit wifi speeds
Hi, im new here but I have looked on here for a while for the answer to my quesiton and couldnt find it. Ill try to fill everyone in as best I can on my situation so please pardon the long explanatio...
- Mar 05, 2021
the R8000P has a 3x3 antenna setup for both 5ghz bands and 2.4ghz. It also has mu-mimo (multiple input, mulitple output). Meaning it can talk to more than 1 device at once if those devices support mu-mimo. And most wireless devices are only 1x1 or 2x2 devices.
so its not a simple answer. Can it do more over the 5ghz if using more than 1 device? potentially.
but it usually doesn't need to. And it half the point of triband was having the ability to seperate out your high bandwidth device.
The reason I say it doesn't usually need to is most services don't need 400mbps. For example, 4k streaming is only 25-40mbps needed. So even if its buffering, its not going to get anywhere close to the 400mbps available.
I've ran triband and dual band flagship routers. with the triband having 2x 5ghz bands (and not being to far away) I haven't ran into bandwidth issues. And I've tested using multiple 4k streamers and gaming machines at a time.
I'd recommend reading one more article, its a review from smallnetbuilder on the r8000P. its a well written article
michaelkenward
Mar 05, 2021Guru - Experienced User
WhiskeyJack wrote:
when I connect to either of the 5G networks via my phone, laptop, desktop and am standing right beside it, I only get max 450up/down.
What do these devices get when you use other wifi sources?
What is the highest reported speeds that these devices get anywhere? (Ignore any marketing hype on the boxes.)
Those speeds look like the best that those wifi clients are likely to achieve.
Read the link that plemans provided. Then you can relax and stop expecting the impossible.
WhiskeyJack
Mar 05, 2021Tutor
Ok, i will take a look at that article. There's alot to digest but I will work through it. Looks very well written. Thanks for the replies!
One more question (im sure this is probably answered in the article but for clarity sake I'm going to ask here):
- Since my client devices are limited to let's say 400mbps on 5g, would the entire 5g band be limited to that? As in if I have two devices on one of the 5g bands and downloading at max speeds, would I see 2x400mbps or would it split that to 2x200mbps? What about if the two devices are on separate 5g bands? Would this also be split with the guest network that's virtually hosted on these 5g bands?
Thanks again for the replies!
One more question (im sure this is probably answered in the article but for clarity sake I'm going to ask here):
- Since my client devices are limited to let's say 400mbps on 5g, would the entire 5g band be limited to that? As in if I have two devices on one of the 5g bands and downloading at max speeds, would I see 2x400mbps or would it split that to 2x200mbps? What about if the two devices are on separate 5g bands? Would this also be split with the guest network that's virtually hosted on these 5g bands?
Thanks again for the replies!
- plemansMar 05, 2021Guru - Experienced User
the R8000P has a 3x3 antenna setup for both 5ghz bands and 2.4ghz. It also has mu-mimo (multiple input, mulitple output). Meaning it can talk to more than 1 device at once if those devices support mu-mimo. And most wireless devices are only 1x1 or 2x2 devices.
so its not a simple answer. Can it do more over the 5ghz if using more than 1 device? potentially.
but it usually doesn't need to. And it half the point of triband was having the ability to seperate out your high bandwidth device.
The reason I say it doesn't usually need to is most services don't need 400mbps. For example, 4k streaming is only 25-40mbps needed. So even if its buffering, its not going to get anywhere close to the 400mbps available.
I've ran triband and dual band flagship routers. with the triband having 2x 5ghz bands (and not being to far away) I haven't ran into bandwidth issues. And I've tested using multiple 4k streamers and gaming machines at a time.
I'd recommend reading one more article, its a review from smallnetbuilder on the r8000P. its a well written article
- WhiskeyJackMar 05, 2021TutorGreat, I just read the article on the R8000P.
I guess in the end, my concern is that paying for gigabit internet will be limited by my router and make it not worth spending the extra money on because I'll only get 400mbps max collectively out of the router. Between all of the heavy users in the house, (not uncommon to have 4x4k Netflix Streams, YouTube, gaming computers, and the occasional heavy download happening at the same time) its nice to have the extra bandwidth. I know generally you won't use the full gigabit, but it is nice to be downloading a large file or files at 700mbps while having all the Netflix streams and YouTube, etc going at the same time. When I know that I will be downloading a large file to my computer (like a call of duty update which sometimes come in at 50gb), I run my 100ft ethernet cable to the router.
I appreciate the replies and I'll do some reading of that first article today- plemansMar 05, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Most AC routers aren't going to max out a wireless gigabit connection. My AX routers can but I have to be fairly close to the router to do so.
I've hardwired in my devices requiring higher speeds/lower latency. Takes some of the burden off the wireless network and tends to streamline things a bit.
Its sometimes worth investing in running ethernet wires or using powerline/moca adapters for those fixed location devices that need the faster/consistent speeds.