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Umair
Jun 10, 2022Guide
R8000P Static routing to ISP router for internet access.
Good day I am struggling in setting up the Static routing for R8000P (Not sure if this would I need) I am not interested in using Access Point. R1 = ISP provided router allows me to connect...
- Jun 17, 2022
Router is a L3 (Layer 3) device and its job is to offer data traffic from one network to another. If they can't do that than to me they shouldn't be classified as Router to begin with.
Now to configuration part. If I have a subnetwork, it shouldn't be difficult to configure. Unfortunately, This problem is mainly associated with unmanaged routers. As NAT does the automatic Network translation and is restricted only to Class A, and Class B IP address scheme. That being said, the Class C IP address scheme is what used mostly for private networks and sub networks. This should be able to handled by having static routes with in the route.
Having sub-network is the way to Isolate the devices especially IoT (Internet of Things) devices. As they can easily get DOS attacks. Thus preventing other networks and devices to get compromised. And to communicate among the networks one need routers.
In my particular case, the issue was that my ISP router didn't have the route as stated in previous replies. And guess what as soon as I include the Routes, The devices started working.
Thank you all for your kind assistance and sharing wealth of knowledge.
Umair
Jun 10, 2022Guide
Thank you so much! I did configured it exactly. I suppose my ISP router needs to be configure in other way as well.
FURRYe38
Jun 10, 2022Guru - Experienced User
What is the brand and model# of the ISP modem? Looks like it might have a built in router possibly?
- UmairJun 15, 2022GuideActiontec T3200. Probably five year old
- FURRYe38Jun 16, 2022Guru - Experienced User
This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the NG router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the NG router gets from the modem. https://kb.netgear.com/25891/DMZ-on-NETGEAR-routers
https://kb.netgear.com/24086/How-do-I-set-up-a-default-DMZ-server-on-my-Nighthawk-router
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the NG router to the modem, LAN to LAN configure AP mode on the NG router.
https://kb.netgear.com/24104/How-do-I-change-my-Nighthawk-router-to-AP-mode-after-I-ve-already-run-setup - michaelkenwardJun 16, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Umair wrote:
Actiontec T3200. Probably five year oldOne of these?
T3200 - WiFi 5 Fiber Bonded VDSL2 Gateway vectoring G.fast/PON GigE - Actiontec.com
If so, it is a modem/router. So you are piling router on router,
Two routers on your network can cause headaches. For example, you can end up with local addressing problems. Among other things, the other router can misdirect addresses that the Netgear router usually handles, such as routerlogin.net or the usual IP address for a router, 192.168.1.1.
This explains some of the other drawbacks.
What is Double NAT? | Answer | NETGEAR Support
Unless you have specific reasons for using two routers – to create two separate networks for example – it is often easier to use just one router and then to set up the second router as a wifi access point. Netgear advises this, as does just about every site you will visit.
It may be possible to put the modem/router into modem only (bridge) mode and then to use the second device as the router. Sometimes it is easier to put the second router into AP mode. But that has its own drawbacks:
Disabled Features on the Router when set to AP Mode | Answer | NETGEAR Support
In your case, you said you didn't want to use the R8000P as an AP. But we still don't know why you want to set up "static routing", a concept that is often misunderstood.From your message, a first move to fix the symptoms you describe would be to put the T3200 in bridge (modem only) mode.
actiontec t3200 bridge mode - Google Search
- UmairJun 17, 2022Guide
Router is a L3 (Layer 3) device and its job is to offer data traffic from one network to another. If they can't do that than to me they shouldn't be classified as Router to begin with.
Now to configuration part. If I have a subnetwork, it shouldn't be difficult to configure. Unfortunately, This problem is mainly associated with unmanaged routers. As NAT does the automatic Network translation and is restricted only to Class A, and Class B IP address scheme. That being said, the Class C IP address scheme is what used mostly for private networks and sub networks. This should be able to handled by having static routes with in the route.
Having sub-network is the way to Isolate the devices especially IoT (Internet of Things) devices. As they can easily get DOS attacks. Thus preventing other networks and devices to get compromised. And to communicate among the networks one need routers.
In my particular case, the issue was that my ISP router didn't have the route as stated in previous replies. And guess what as soon as I include the Routes, The devices started working.
Thank you all for your kind assistance and sharing wealth of knowledge.