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B4D_WOLF
Sep 22, 2018Guide
R9000 DROPPING WIFI EVERY 15-20 MINS
Neatgear Nighthawk R9000 X10
Firmware V1.0.4.12
QoS is already turned off (was never set up)
Wifi randonly drops off for about 30 secs about every 15-20 mins. This is mostly noticable on the 2....
- Sep 30, 2018
Update:
Nothing I tried fixed the issue and I got really tired of spending so much time trying to fix it that I returned it and made a switch to a different brand...
B4D_WOLF
Sep 30, 2018Guide
Update:
Nothing I tried fixed the issue and I got really tired of spending so much time trying to fix it that I returned it and made a switch to a different brand...
- B4D_WOLFOct 02, 2018Guide
switched brands and the Asus router took me a whole 15 mins to set up and has been working flawlessly. Bonus was it was half the price for 1 router and 1 router/mesh.
- B4D_WOLFOct 12, 2018Guide
So it has been almost 2 weeks since I decided to quit messing with the netgear router and replaced with a mesh set up from Asus https://amzn.to/2IRFzkY. They are not as fancy but omg, not a single dropped signal since I swithced over. IMO I would rather have relyability over speed, still getting 800-900 mbps on LAN and 100mbps on 2.4 @~200 mbps on 5G. Best switch I have made an it was only half to cost lol... Good bye netgear you just lost a 15 year customer
- isakiOct 12, 2018Apprentice
I've had really good luck with Asus routers (I have one in a drawer I use for testing/ad hoc networks and I set one up for my parents); unfortunately only the ugly 8 antenta (AC5300) seemed to be able to support my device load and performance requirements at the time I was shopping around and bought the R9000 and it had better reviews and (believe it or not) better firmware.
That being said, the R9000 is really a nice piece of hardware and I still like its theoretical capabilities. Unfortunately, the firmware leaves a great deal to be desired. If Netgear support is not able to get it patched to my satisfaction, I'll try Voxel. If that doesn't work to my satisifaction, I'll either patch Voxel and submit a PR, fork Voxel and build my own custom firmware, or finally just throw my hands up and throw DD-WRT on there.
Good luck with your Asus devices! Like I said, Asus makes a solid product; just make sure you keep them up to date. They do put out frequent updates to pick up security fixes which is a really great thing. You may wish to do all your updates over a wired connection or their built in updater; I've had problems when updating my AC66U over WiFi and had to connect over wired to recover it.
- jgscorpioOct 12, 2018GuideDon’t you find it strange that Netgear hasn’t fixed this issue. I mean, so ma y people are dropping Netgear and choosing any other product that doesn’t give such a headache. I’m bummed, because prior to updating, I’ve not had any issues with my Netgear router. If I was Netgear, man, I would fix it quick!
- isakiOct 15, 2018Apprentice
I am actively working with Netgear on the issue and have provided them way more information than I'm normally comfortable with in order to resolve this so I hope their engineers can pinpoint the problem.
Please note: I rolled back to 1.0.4.2 as part of troubleshooting with Netgear and it fixed all of my issues. I'm going to continue to use the old firmware for a few days and see how it goes, but so far it looks really good (especially since I can trigger the network drops on demand on the 1.0.4.12 within a 3-4 minute time window; it turns out Splatoon 2 is really good a triggering it and it takes only a single multi-player match to bring the network down).
I normally would not encourage anyone to ever downgrade an OS/Firmware for security reasons, in this case it might be prudent to do so in the name of stability until Netgear fixes whatever is wrong with 1.0.4.12.Here is the link to the download:
http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/R9000/R9000-V1.0.4.2.zipI'll continue to keep you all up to date as Netgear and I continue to work through this issue.
- ProdigalgeniusDec 09, 2018AspirantIm about to do the same all my automation is messed up. Coz of this connection failure
- schumakuDec 09, 2018Guru - Experienced User
ChristineT Christian_R Why do these customers and community members not get access to the 1.0.4.18 Beta - supposedly fixing the faux watchdog resets of one or both wireless interfaces?
- je1911Dec 01, 2018Tutor
This is the direction I am headed in as I have tried to work with Netgear support and their engineering team. This Product is a failure and product support team is a failure as well. Not addressing customer concerns around product reliability at this price point is a leadership problem. I will be advocating out to every forum I can not buy these products until Netgear gets their act together!
- cedric325Dec 10, 2018TutorI switched so, could not stand the constant drops
- SkimPappaDec 10, 2018Apprentice
The fact that I can't finish backing up my files to my NAS without losing the router is really bothering me. Is switching to 3rd party firmware a permanent decision or can you switch back to netgear firmware after they figure out how to fix this?
- ercadmJan 06, 2019Tutor
This is my second R9000 as the first ended up having a power issue whereas it would turn on but nobody home. It was returned and replaced. I too have been having random signal loss and have, I believe, finally solved this problem.
The solution is of course quite simple.. as others had disabled mu-mimo and beamforming, I have learned only the beamforming needed to be turned off. Note: I only have mu-mimo on and and all other 3 within the advanced settings are now off.
To get to this resolution I did the following:
First, I was initially using separate 2.4 and 5 ghz SSID's which would allow me to place my straming devices like smart tv, on the 5ghz and then all my smart home/smartthings is on the 2.4. I liked having this but because I was having this drop randomly, I need to first have the redundancy so using the smartconnect feature where there is only one SSID should solved this by having the device that might be connected to 5ghz and loses signal, should in theory reconnect pretty quickly to the 2.4 but that doesn't happen, at least not immediately and in the case of my mac mini, I have to manually select the SSID again even though it is showing and is set to auto connect..
I work in IT and have had my own consulting business for over 20 years so yes, I do know a thing or two about networking so this one was truly pissing me off. Would I recommend the R9000? Absolutely NOT.. Stick with ASUS.. I have the RT-AC87U that has always been a go-to backup but with the home on the Gigabyte networking I wanted to get the most out of my wireless and I could only ever get about 135 mbps on the ASus unit. With the R9000 I can get upwards to 700mbps on my mac mini for example. But the reliabilty wasn't there.
So at this point I have one SSID using the smartconnect feature. I only have the 'enable mu-mimo' selected.
I have also disabled (even though with smartconnect you shouldn't have to) the broadcast of 5 ghz SSID and have the 60 ghz which is not being used, disabled completely.
Figuring by disabling the transmitter/receiver that is not being used, it would help prevent any power loss on the other radios and not bring in any further interferrence.
I have not had a dropout for about 18 hours and feel pretty confident I have solved the problem.
One other thing, I do use a wifi analyzer to analyze the frequencies as there is a lot of wireless in my neighborhood. The R9000 does rock some serious power and I am almost doubled the db's from my nearest neighbor. I check the channels regularly as I do NOT use the automatic settings.. I have only had to change my 2.4 channel once in the past year but since I have never really had troubles with 2.4 frequency dropping the only reason I changed channel was better strength and less interferrence from neighbors.
Finally, I have the 20/40 coexistence OFF
The firmware is the latest which presently, is 1.04.12 and yes, I have reverted to two previous versions to see if it helped and no it did not.
The thing with troubleshooting, as I am sure most of you reading this have learned, is that you can only make one change at a time to know if you have found the correct solution so this has been something that I have been working on for over a month.. reading all of your solutions, hoping that I had figured it out but until I got to the point where I couldn't even sit through one football game (playoffs) without being dropped every 4 minutes. I had had enough..
Would I recommend the R9000 ? No, not now and not for quite some time, since the tech support people are useless, I am questioning future netgear stuff.
- Ck3210Jan 06, 2019ApprenticeI know folks are still troubleshooting, but I recommend joining the beta program. Don’t spend hours of time testing when you can patch the firmware in 15 minutes.
- ercadmJan 06, 2019Tutor
WTF would I want to join their beta program for when the stuff they release is S^!t? I don't have time messing with beta when I just expect the product they push out to be working. If they want to pay me by possibly giving me a free router then sure I'll be more than happy to spend my time beta testing!
As I mentioned, I'm already in the business of fixing technical programs. The only difference is I get paid to do it.