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Berkey99
Mar 28, 2021Tutor
Unable to update firmware to V1.4.1.68_1.3.28 on R7960P-NAS100
Windows 10 Microsoft Edge Browser (Version 89.0.774.63 (Official build) (64-bit)) Nighthawk X6S AC3600 MU-MIMO Smart Wi-Fi Router (Model R7960P-100NAS) I logged into the router from my PC via w...
Berkey99
Apr 24, 2021Tutor
Sorry, your link took me to a utility bill online portal in Packistan.
shadowsports
Apr 24, 2021Hero
Guys,
You need to take these devices back to Costco as defective. There is no upgrade path. This is a ongoing issue and for those who discovered it after their warranty expired, have no recourse though Netgear. Its a sad truth. While I do own one of the "affected" models, mine upgraded to 1.4.1.68 without issue.
Techincally they (Netgear) should honor warrant and replace them, but they won't. My advice, get a replacement or another model, one that allows upgrade beyond 1.4.1.50 or model that uses a different FW all together.
Initially there was only a small number of users who had the issue, this has since expanded. While I'm not following it closely any longer, I do know that all avenues for upgrade:
Nighthawk App
Autocheck and update
Manual update
TFTP reflash all failed
It appears that the FW update is incompatible with certain hardware revisions, but in some cases there is only one revision llisted for a model. Netgear is not admitting fault and no one except them knows what the actual story is. You aren't going to get help if you are beyond your 1 yr warranty period.
So don't waste any more time on it. Get it replaced and move on. Consider yourself lucky for buying from a retailer with the excellent return policy.
- brenflenApr 24, 2021Tutor
Thanks shadowsports, I have wasted my time in this process and I am returning to Costco since they provided an extended warranty at the time of purchase. And you know what? They'd probably take it back, even with an expired extended warranty, because it's a good company who cares about customer satisfaction.
Here is my experience from Netgear support for those interested:
After commenting on this thread I received a private message: "We truly appreciate your patience as we work to resolve the firmware not upgrading with your R7960p/R8000P. As a valued member of the NETGEAR family, we will be escalating your reported issues to our Customer Care team to authorize a product RMA or possible upgrade. We kindly ask that you don't share your resolution on the forums as we will need to consider an appropriate resolution on a case by case basis."
Oh, you kindly asked? After my experience, I kindly refuse.
Wasted 2 hours on the phone with a tech who made me re-do dozens of steps, not including some I already did myself on my own time:- Nighthawk App update failure
- RouterLogin.net autocheck and update failure
- Manual update failure
- TFTP reflash failure
- Updating to V1.4.1.66 (instead of V1.4.1.68) failure
- Updating to V1.4.1.64 (instead of V1.4.1.68) failure
Then they made me change my RouterLogin.net password. So I did, so their team could access. Guess who now gets kicked off the internet 12 times a day, which wasn't even an issue before I contacted support?
Also, as a part of their "resolution," they sent me an agreement which was insulting to say the least (and of course I didn't sign it). They want me to accept terms to install non-verified beta software, but they're not liable for any damage that it's caused (exceeding $1.00 - yes ONE f***ing dollar for ANY damages / data breaches / lost profit or revenue) and removed themselves of ALL liability.
The agreement is an absolute joke and only an idiot would sign it.
I will never buy a Netgear product again, and I will forever tell everyone I know to AVOID NETGEAR PRODUCTS LIKE THE PLAGUE!I am beyond pissed off at this experience. What a garbage company. I will also go out of my way to raise this issue to Costco in every way I possibly can to get Netgear products removed from the shelves.
- "Kindly,"
A Lost Customer for Life- shadowsportsApr 24, 2021HeroThere's no reason to go out of your way to defame Netgear. Companies are often measured by their policies and in cases like this how they respond to what many now believe is a manufacturing defect. I don't know, but If it's not, then why do some routers upgrade, while others do not. Clearly there is a problem, and at this point still no solution.
I still use Netgear products and they have a place in the consumer user space. Given that they have millions of products sold and deployed, I'm surprised that they aren't making more of an effort and taking accountability for this. It's not like this issue is caused by user error. Doing nothing only erodes customer confidence. At this point they've had more than enough (or reasonable) amount of time to resolve the problem. If it were solvable through software.
I like Netgear well enough, but don't necessarily agree with the way that they've decided to handle this and similar issues. It's also important to point out that other router manufacturers experience the same types of problems to varying degrees. So the saying the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence is 100% true. Now more than ever, I recommend true enterprise class solutions to family and friends for use in their homes. While the initial investment is more, the reliability and support is consistently superior. Like many things, you get what you pay for. If you have the budget, it's worth it.- Berkey99Apr 24, 2021TutorI will defame them solely as a company that does not back their products when they are defective unless you purchase a costly support package. Netgear needs to recall these defective models and replace them. Any other action indicates that greed is their driving motivation and their motto is ‘Let the buyer beware’. Surely they monitor these groups yet no one from Netgear has responded.