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Antero
Jan 12, 2021Tutor
Too many devices?
Hi, I´m having issues with my laptop, printer, and my wife and kids laptops, when moving around the house suddenly disconect and said "limited connection" (something about IP). The r7800 rout...
Antero
Jan 12, 2021Tutor
Thanks for your reply.
I thought it doesn´t matter in which band my devices are connected because at the end is the same processor (router), but it´s good to know that is not. I would try to balance between 2.4 and 5 my devices, although some of them only support 2.4 like smart light switches and WIZ bulbs, however I think it should works. I let you know.
Thanks again.
plemans
Jan 12, 2021Guru - Experienced User
You're also running 3x extenders (from what you've said)?
I usually recommend to people, that if they're needing more than 1 extender to move to an actual mesh system like netgear orbi.
"mesh" extenders don't play as nicely because nothings controlling them versus an actual mesh system has the router controlling the backhaul connections.
This can cause extenders to daisy chain or even end up connecting to each other and not back to the router which can cause issues.
You put you have the EX7300 and EX7500. Is there a different one as well or 2 of one of them?
With those the EX7500 is triband so has a dedicated backhaul versus the ex7300 doesn't have that backhaul.
the EX7300 will have lower speeds and increased latency
How big is the home?
You might have to much overlapping coverage when using mesh extenders.
Something to try? Change 1 or 2 of the extenders out of mesh mode and assign them their own unique ssid. Sometimes that can help when people are using overlapping mesh extenders.
- AnteroJan 13, 2021Tutor
1 Router R7800 (1st floor)
2 Extender EX7300 (1st floor connected both to 2.4GHz to router, and extender to devices 2.4GHz and 5GHz)
1 Extender EX7500 (2nd floor connected to router with one 5GHz to router, and to devices 2.4GHz and different 5GHz band)
House: 4300ft2
* concrete between floors
*bricks/concrete walls
*aluminum window frames
distance between router to ex7300(1) = 80ft
distance between router to ex7300(2) = 65ft
distance between router to ex7500 = 65ft
distance ex7300(1) to ex7300(2) = 130ft
distance ex7300 (1) to ex7500 = 65ft
distance ex7500 to ex7300(2) =55ft
I try today moving some devices to the 5GHz band and not to overload the 2.4GHz band, so now I have 25 devices connected to 2.4GHz, 28 to 5GHz and 5 to ethernet, so far so good.
How can I check if the extenders are connected to each other or overlapping?
thanks for your kindly reply
- plemansJan 13, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Antero wrote:1 Router R7800 (1st floor)
2 Extender EX7300 (1st floor connected both to 2.4GHz to router, and extender to devices 2.4GHz and 5GHz)
1 Extender EX7500 (2nd floor connected to router with one 5GHz to router, and to devices 2.4GHz and different 5GHz band)
House: 4300ft2
* concrete between floors
*bricks/concrete walls------Ouch. The concrete and brick are literally the 2 best blockers of wifi. Any chance you have a hardwired connection in the rooms? That concrete/brick floor/wall is the worst possible setup you can have for wifi. Sorry. Everythings going to struggle with that.
*aluminum window frames
distance between router to ex7300(1) = 80ft
distance between router to ex7300(2) = 65ft
distance between router to ex7500 = 65ft
distance ex7300(1) to ex7300(2) = 130ft
distance ex7300 (1) to ex7500 = 65ft
distance ex7500 to ex7300(2) =55ft
I try today moving some devices to the 5GHz band and not to overload the 2.4GHz band, so now I have 25 devices connected to 2.4GHz, 28 to 5GHz and 5 to ethernet, so far so good.
How can I check if the extenders are connected to each other or overlapping?-----you can check each devices connected device page. You might be ok because with concrete/brick it tends to block 5ghz much more than 2.4ghz (because of how each works) and you tend to see less congestions because of the blocking effect.
thanks for your kindly reply
I wish I had better news but you literally have a home designed to block wifi.
I usually recommend to people this those situations to try to find a way to hardwire in access points whether that be using ethernet, powerline, or moca adapters (ethernet over coax). And if they have a wired backhaul, to use a actual mesh system like orbi that supports a wired backhaul. Its a struggle to keep things working properly in homes like that.
- AnteroJan 14, 2021Tutor
Fortunately I have ethernet in almost every room, so after moving some devices to 5GHz band still getting issues or if I want to optimize my network I must switch to AP my current extender and get 4 SSID or acquire Orbi using wired blackhaul and get only 1 SSID? In that case, what Orbi system is most suitable for me? Take into consideration that I´m pretending to extend my "smart home".
Thanks again