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Encrypting to Amazon Sync
So I finally got my Amazon Sync working and it's currently uploading my first 1TB. Yay!! However, I got to thinking about security. There's a clause in the amazon terms of use that says they can ...
Sync isn't really a backup anyway, since any problem with the NAS files ends up being applied in the Amazon Cloud
Crashplan would also cost $60 per year for a single device (unlimited storage). It is encrypted.
It is possible to to install it on x86 NAS with ssh, or you can install it on a PC or Mac and map the NAS data volume to a network drive. The latter is simpler of course.
Crash plan looks interesting. My only hesitation is that I'm super lazy. I tend to prefer out of the box solutions that don't require me to instlal weird software. I can't really rely on installing it on a desktop so I'd have to install it on the NAS directly. I'm sure it's not supper difficult, but still not out of the box and so nobody will want to fix it if it's not working. where as if i keep everythign with netgear, they're insentivized to get it all working since it's all their product. It is tempting though.
vrspectre: we meant to post this earlier, but somehow must have made an error in uploading.
In response to your comparison of ReadyNAS Vault and Amazon's Cloud Drive sync option...
1. These aren't exactly apples to apples solutions, though both can be used for many similar purposes. One key difference you've already highlighted in this thread is that data is encrypted at rest with RNV. Meaning, the files are all encrypted on your device and never decrypted until they are returned to an authenticated device. Additionally, you have the option of using Personal Keys that the RNV service does not have access to (warning: if you use this option and lose/forget your passphrase, RNV cannot help you recover your data). There are several other features/function (e.g. granular control over backup rules, versioning/archiving, appropriate handling of attached devices, etc...) but those may not even matter for this case.
2. We hear you loud and clear on the price. Amazon's one price fits all seems designed to attract many users with the knowledge that some users (like those with 2 TB of data) will be "loss leaders." RNV has a variety of different plans that are built to cater to specific needs - perhaps one of our Personal plans will work. Or maybe our sales team can provide a discount - please check in at support@vault.readynas.com and reference this thread. The team will try to find the most economical plan for your use case and may be able to save you money.Hope this helps in the evaluation process.
I wrote via email, and got pretty much a stock answer. Here is why ReadyNAS Vault doesn't work for me...
Really all I wanted was to backup my NAS. It’s still supported based on the web page, but the pricing is totally unrealistic. Most of the data is archive data, and won’t be accessed unless I have a total failure of the ReadyNAS.
It’s already just under 3Tb, and your plan is $39.95 per month for 2Tb. That’s totally unaffordable for a home user looking for occasional disaster recovery access and little else. Also your restrictions make it unsuable, I have backups of laptop hard drives going back to the early 1990’s archived on the ReadyNAS. The backups are often single files, many of them are over 15Gb in size. Again, chances are I’ll never need to access them. They are archived on the NAS and I just want the NAS backed up…I need none of the things you list as “features” – link sharing, folder sharing, multiple devices, nor do I need a mobile app.
Hi cathcam,
Thanks for the feedback. It sounds like there are two issues (cost and individual file size limitations), and the other note that many of the other features we offer are not of interest to you (i.e. just aren't relevant for your specific use case). We just want to comment below to let you (and/or other readers) know that we are listening...
re: Pricing -- We do offer lower cost "Personal" plans but I don't think they will work for you due to individual file size limits we enforce. As we get better pricing from our vendors and become more efficient, we will work to pass those savings on to end users but we understand that for the use case you are interested in it may make sense to go directly to a provider like Amazon Glacier (very low cost, high quality storage, aptly designed for your needs).
re: File size limitations -- we understand your frustration. While we will continue to increase our limitations on individual file size, it seems like we are a long way from supporting your full sized system images. We will pass the feedback along to our engineering team and let them know that the demand for large files (i.e. > 100GB) is strong and encourage them to accelerate their deployment of increased thresholds.
We're sorry we can't better meet your needs today. Thanks again for the candid report.
vrspectre wrote:
I'm sure it's not super difficult, but still not out of the box and so nobody will want to fix it if it's not working.
That is true- CrashPlan doesn't support headless installations on linux (though they have provided me support overall, they didn't support the installation itself). Like all NAS installs you have to pay attention to OS partition usage.
And I've seen one post here saying that the headless installations might become impossible in a future release.
I've been using it on my Pro-6 since 2012, and overall its worked out ok. There were bumps in the road in last summer (you'll find some posts from me and others on that in the forum).
I'm not ready to trust any Cloud Backup as my only backup, but for ~$60/year I'll gladly take it as disaster insurance.
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