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amrob2
Mar 01, 2023Apprentice
ReadyNAS 316 - Disc 5 impending failure warning - leading to question about WD white label drives
A couple of days ago, my RN316 emailed an impending failure warning for disc no 5 in my raid array. Luckily I do have a couple of spare 12TB drives laying around, specifically for the dreaded day whe...
Sandshark
Mar 03, 2023Sensei
No ReadyNAS desktop unit has an issue with the pin 3 power disable (which is not unique to shucked drives, it's a change in the SATA spec) because they have no 3.3V in the SATA backplane. Pin 3 is a no-connect. I simply don't know about rack-mount units, but that doesn't affect you.
I purchased a NAS that contained 5 WD Gold drives, and 3 of the 5 failed just after the 5-year warranty expired. The 6th drive in it was a Red (from when they were CMR) with much lower hours, but I don't know if it was added later or was a replacement for a 6th Gold that failed before I purchased it. The SMART on them showed they'd remained on most of their life (few recorded power cycles), but I do not know how they were treated otherwise. And I bought two new WD Red (again, when they were still CMR) that both arrived with bad sectors, so they are not always better. I'm partial to the HGST line that now belongs to WD, and many of the larger WD drives, including those in USB units, are from that line.
StephenB
Mar 03, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Sandshark wrote:
I purchased a NAS that contained 5 WD Gold drives, and 3 of the 5 failed just after the 5-year warranty expired. The 6th drive in it was a Red (from when they were CMR) with much lower hours, but I don't know if it was added later or was a replacement for a 6th Gold that failed before I purchased it. The SMART on them showed they'd remained on most of their life (few recorded power cycles), but I do not know how they were treated otherwise. And I bought two new WD Red (again, when they were still CMR) that both arrived with bad sectors, so they are not always better. I'm partial to the HGST line that now belongs to WD, and many of the larger WD drives, including those in USB units, are from that line.
Kind of my point - end users have experience with a small number of drives, generally not enough to have statistically significant data. Our personal experience tends to drive our individual preferences.
Here's some of mine:
My Duo has a Seagate ST32000542AS that I put into service in 2010. My later experience with Seagate Barracudas shifted me away from them for a while, but that particular drive has never had any issues.
My NV+ is still running the original WD20EARS drives I installed in 2011. I put WD30EFRX drives in my Pro-6 about 10 years ago, and some of those drives are still in service. A couple failed (really don't recall how many), but others were just replaced with larger models to get more capacity.
Along the way I got a few failures with WD60EFRX models which for some reason didn't show up in the SMART stats, so I took the remaining ones out of service - because I didn't think I could trust them. I haven't had any issues with the 8-14 TB WD Red Plus drives I have in service now, or the Ironwolf drives that I added into the mix. Some of those are helium-filled, so I think came from the HGST line.
I have had several drives fail my disk tests out-of-the-box (both WD and Seagate) - no way to tell if they were due to manufacturing defects or bad handling/damage during shipping.
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