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ReadyNAS State of Union?
Over the years I have always wanted to play around/use one of the ReadyNAS units. Everything I read about them sounded great and over at AVSForum a ReadyNAS employee ran a power buy and offered support over the years and I was impressed. Enough that if I decided to go the NAS route I'd purchase a ReadyNAS. Well the week I begin my journey that employee leaves... bad luck I guess. Now I see another high visible one leaving... and once again no one new introduced beforehand as a replacement.
All of this time I thought when ReadyNAS was purchased by Netgear they retained a great deal of their culture. Sadly, when I needed support I found myself talking to overseas support which is OK in and of itself until they insisted the model I have isn't the model stamped on the front of the unit and can't offer support beyond saying they put the wrong model in the box. At that point I gave up on support which isn't all that unusual in this day and age.
However, I still thought the online forum would more than take care of my needs should any arise. But now seeing people disappear with no replacements in sight and a HCL list that's beyond small and largely contained of outdated drives that are virtually impossible to find (if not afford). After trying a few models with a few bumps my general impression is ReadyNAS to a large degree is dropping prices and more or less giving up on technology per se. Recent pricing on the DUO+ v2 (grabbed one for $118 - shopblt - deal although Amazon is currently $125) and NV+ v2 (grabbed a couple at $222 - amazon promotion). Are we seeing fire sells? Perhaps a mass market approach forgoing the technology and support?
What do you other users think? I'm sure you are have been around a lot longer than me and have a better feeling. I'm just trying to decide if I want to implement some small scale installations with them which will need to be maintained down the road. So far the only promising feature I have found is price which in my case only goes so far.
All of this time I thought when ReadyNAS was purchased by Netgear they retained a great deal of their culture. Sadly, when I needed support I found myself talking to overseas support which is OK in and of itself until they insisted the model I have isn't the model stamped on the front of the unit and can't offer support beyond saying they put the wrong model in the box. At that point I gave up on support which isn't all that unusual in this day and age.
However, I still thought the online forum would more than take care of my needs should any arise. But now seeing people disappear with no replacements in sight and a HCL list that's beyond small and largely contained of outdated drives that are virtually impossible to find (if not afford). After trying a few models with a few bumps my general impression is ReadyNAS to a large degree is dropping prices and more or less giving up on technology per se. Recent pricing on the DUO+ v2 (grabbed one for $118 - shopblt - deal although Amazon is currently $125) and NV+ v2 (grabbed a couple at $222 - amazon promotion). Are we seeing fire sells? Perhaps a mass market approach forgoing the technology and support?
What do you other users think? I'm sure you are have been around a lot longer than me and have a better feeling. I'm just trying to decide if I want to implement some small scale installations with them which will need to be maintained down the road. So far the only promising feature I have found is price which in my case only goes so far.
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- For what it's worth I ended my ReadyNAS adventure. WOL never worked and after going through my initial hard drive issues I came to find out the replacement (which was listed on the HCL) needs a certain firmware revision to be supported. Of course this was only posted several months after the drive was placed on the list (without any notes).
I ended up throwing my data on a PC I'm using for Windows Media Center (OTA DVRing). Certainly there are a few disadvantages but at least I don't have to worry about my drives not being supported down the road or any data corruption from drives that really aren't supported even though they are listed as such... at least for the moment.
Fry's continues to blow them out the door (DUO v2 $105 (with rebate)) but I'm going to resist for now. If drive prices ever drop (to any degree) I'll take another look and see how things are going... - I've been a big fan of the ReadyNAS -I have one X6 still chugging along. I appreciated that the products generally were on the leading edge for years. But it's hard for me to continue supporting ReadyNAS as the Ultra line is coming up on its 2nd anniversary - too long to keep the prosumer niche waiting on something with faster connectivity. Where is thunderbolt? A few competitors have it already. Not even a USB 3.0 in the Ultra 4 or 6 yet? And then some key employees departing... taken all together it is very disappointing. I suppose Netgear just doesnt see their acquisition of Infrant being all that strategically important and so it is just milking what they can with no investment (probably why you have some employees leaving - out of frustration). I for one cant wait much longer. Anyone have a good suggestion for a replacement NAS?
- Infrant was acquired back in 2007. All the x86 (Intel) products (e.g. NVX, Ultra, Pro) are NetGear ones. The Pro was the first x86 ReadyNAS and released late 2008. The storage business is important to NetGear. Late last year the new entry-level devices (Duo/NV+ v2) was introduced and recently the exciting new high-end device the ReadyDATA 5200 was introduced. Both these new devices come with a new Dashboard web interface rather than the old Frontview web-interface found on older devices.
NetGear's also acquired Leaf Networks, and now has both ReadyNAS Remote (for Remote access to files) and ReadyNAS Replicate (backup NAS to NAS) which are simple to setup and don't require any port forwarding due to the software VPN used.
NetGear's also released the ReadyNAS Surveillance add-on recently.
The 4-bay and 6-bay Ultra/Ultra Plus/Pro Series devices were developed before the 2-bay ones so USB3 didn't make it to those. - I hear what you're saying mdgm, it's nice and all, but just not enough to keep being excited about. Especially not 2-bay products. It seems like to me some of the earlier Netgear products were developed on the coattails of the Infrant employees and their development pipeline. As time has gone on, were just not getting the same level of quality/excitement that won over the early adopters. Just been too long of a refresh cycle on the 4+ bay products. We need something sooner rather than later.
- Lets see, they introduced the 4 bay NVX in 2009, the 4 bay Ultra, Ultra Plus and Pro in late 2010 and the four bay NV+ in late 2011. Yep they certainly aren't introducing any products. Counting the NV and NV+ there have been 7 four bay products introduced since you bought your X6. As for Thunderbolt, I would rather see eSATA or USB3 as there are a lot more products out there. From what I found on Wikipedia, thundbolt is an update of the display port and uses the same port. That another one that never really caught on as it was competing with HDMI which is all but universal.
- thunderbolt is pci-express on a cable instead of card. it certainly is not limited to displays, and can infact support just about anything that can run on a pci express buss including video, audio, disk io and more. There are and have been several mac-centric thunderbolt extenral drive/raid chassis available for some time now.
A nas with thunderbolt support, and a thunderbolt external drive/raid chassis would provide an excellent and super fast backup target for the main raid array without the expense and management/configuration/maintenance hassle that a separate nas device would entail. - Couldn't agree more.
As a mac user, hooking up a mac-mini to a Thunderbolt array such as those by Pegasus would enable full network storage support with virtually any application you could imagine serving that data directly - no hacks or addons. Not perhaps the cheapest option, but incredibly flexible especially given the ability to daisy multiple arrays. At this point in time I can see this being my next major upgrade. - Papabear, you're right about the 4-bay NV+ i missed in 2011. I was really speaking about the higher end of the readynas product line (ultra or better) - where I am still waiting for something with faster connectivity. USB2.0 in the ultra 4 and 6 didn't cut it in 2010 and it still doesn't in 2012. Hopefully wont have to wait much longer otherwise I'll have to find something else.
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