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chopin70
Oct 06, 2020Virtuoso
Remove inactive volumes to use the disk. Disk #3.
Hi, I have my RN524X setup like this: - volume "data": X-RAID (disks 1 and 2) - volume "medias1": JBOD, disk 3 - volume "medias2": JBOD disk 4 I wanted to migrate disk 4 to a bigger disk. ...
- Oct 07, 2020
chopin70 wrote:
I removed all disks, factory reset, boot without disks in new GUI, setup password
That was a waste of time. The NAS boots from the disks, and a factory reset formats the disks and does a fresh install of the system. The volume configuration is saved on the OS partition on the disks.
So to start over, you'd need to do a factory reset the disks installed. Then switch to flexraid and destroy the volume (which you can do while it is syncing).
On the original issue, the NAS simply isn't designed to handle the remove disks/reinsert disks sequence you've been using. While you obviously did find a path that worked, you've been playing in the cracks of the piano. A better path would be to format a USB drive as btrfs, and enable checksums on that drive using ssh. Then use backup jobs to copy the data. Or just don't worry about the checksums.
I'd also suggest re-considering the use of volume encryption. It clearly factors into the problems you are having. IMO, the security benefit is small - it only defends against the threat of someone physically stealing the NAS (or just the disks) w/o stealing the key. If someone has the entire system (including the key), they can do an OS reinstall to reset the admin password, and access all the files through the network.
Alternatives to volume encryption include setting up veracrypt or vhd/vhdx containers on the NAS. These IMO offer stronger security, since they also defend against network access threats. The main downside is that you'd only be able to access the encrypted files from one machine at a time.
chopin70
Oct 07, 2020Virtuoso
I removed all disks, factory reset, boot without disks in new GUI, setup password
Poweroff the NAS
Reinstall 4 disks
Boot NAS
Now all my volumes refuse to get the password from the USB key:
Volume: Failed to activate encrypted volume data-0. Insert an external storage device with the encryption key for this volume and reboot to activate the volume data-0 Volume: Failed to activate encrypted volume medias1-0. Insert an external storage device with the encryption key for this volume and reboot to activate the volume medias1-0 Volume: Failed to activate encrypted volume medias2.1-0. Insert an external storage device with the encryption key for this volume and reboot to activate the volume medias2.1-0
Well, I am done with a complete restore which would take me a few days...
How can one move from one NAS to another if the moving to same NAS after a factory reset is broken ?
Please help me recover my data and mount teh encrypted volumes
Best regards
StephenB
Oct 07, 2020Guru - Experienced User
chopin70 wrote:
I removed all disks, factory reset, boot without disks in new GUI, setup password
That was a waste of time. The NAS boots from the disks, and a factory reset formats the disks and does a fresh install of the system. The volume configuration is saved on the OS partition on the disks.
So to start over, you'd need to do a factory reset the disks installed. Then switch to flexraid and destroy the volume (which you can do while it is syncing).
On the original issue, the NAS simply isn't designed to handle the remove disks/reinsert disks sequence you've been using. While you obviously did find a path that worked, you've been playing in the cracks of the piano. A better path would be to format a USB drive as btrfs, and enable checksums on that drive using ssh. Then use backup jobs to copy the data. Or just don't worry about the checksums.
I'd also suggest re-considering the use of volume encryption. It clearly factors into the problems you are having. IMO, the security benefit is small - it only defends against the threat of someone physically stealing the NAS (or just the disks) w/o stealing the key. If someone has the entire system (including the key), they can do an OS reinstall to reset the admin password, and access all the files through the network.
Alternatives to volume encryption include setting up veracrypt or vhd/vhdx containers on the NAS. These IMO offer stronger security, since they also defend against network access threats. The main downside is that you'd only be able to access the encrypted files from one machine at a time.
- chopin70Oct 07, 2020Virtuoso
so it ssems no way to get my volumes back I guess :-(
Wired because it was staten everywhere that we can migrate from one NAS to another by taking out disks from one unit to the other !
Note, I just noticed I did an OS reinstall, not factory default
Ok, I am trying a last one:
- inserted an empty disk
- factory default (and not OS reinstall)
- turn off
- put in my old disks
- cross fingers...
- StephenBOct 07, 2020Guru - Experienced User
chopin70 wrote:
Note, I just noticed I did an OS reinstall, not factory default
Same issue if you tried to do that with no disks installed. The OS reinstall does a partial reinstall of the OS onto the disks, and also resets a few configuration settings.
chopin70 wrote:
Wired because it was staten everywhere that we can migrate from one NAS to another by taking out disks from one unit to the other !
That feature is about moving all the disks to another NAS (in your case, also moving the encryption key). Not about dismounting/remounting individual volumes. Moving individual volumes is possible, using the export function - though it isn't well documented, and I suspect not that well tested.
- chopin70Oct 07, 2020Virtuoso
Ah, I see
Well, I am stuck to restore all from network, which is damn slow
Thank you for the support
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