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Plex on ReadyNAS Pro
Hi Folks, I have a ReadyNAS Pro (Business Edition) and just fired up the plex media server on it. Everything worked fine, but anytime I try to view a 1080p file (.m2ts or h.264 mkv) it can't keep ...
StephenB and btaroli,
Thanks for the valuable input.
To clarify - I am using the PLEX server on the NAS but also have ReadyDLNA on as my Bluray player is "DLNA" capable. I put the DLNA in quotes as many Sony products do not actually support all the video formats that one would expect on DLNA especially when being streamed from a NAS. The bluray player recognizes 2 servers - one ReadyNAS and one PLEX (but does not have a PLEX app). I have 2 Roku 2xs' with the PLEX app installed. I will give it a shot at decreasing the bandwidth on the Roku to see if that helps and report back.
Last night I created a separate folder on the NAS with my IPad versions of my movies. One folder has the mkv (created through MakeMKV) and the other a smaller copies made by running the mkv through Handbrake and its ipad preset (.m4v). I then tried streaming the 2 through both the DLNA and the Roku. Most noticeably, the streaming of the smaller copy was smoother, had faster fast-forward and reverse, more movie stored in the buffer and in a shorter amount of time. The receiver, I suspect, upconverts the video and so even though the ipad version may be at a lower resolution, it appeared at least as good as a 720p. As an aside, my family is primarily Apple and I haven't invested yet in the equipment to rip the blurays that we have - all rips are from the DVD version and thus not at 1080p. I am concerned though, that a 1080p rip, due to file size would be slow and frustrating. What has been your experience with streaming ripped Blurays?
Lastly, the Sony was able to stream the m4v from the NAS without difficulty. Also, I suspect when I play the mkv it may change the 6 channels to 2 channels before passing to my receiver.
I've attached the Mediainfo on the 2 versions of a movie for your perusal.
Question for btaroli: clarification for you. "Further, I'd strongly recommend using native PLEX clients to DLNA." Do you set PLEX on your Samsung Smart TV to stream from DLNA or from PLEX?
Thanks!
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Menu
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00:16:39.865 : en:Chapter 06
00:21:30.656 : en:Chapter 07
00:28:18.530 : en:Chapter 08
00:32:49.167 : en:Chapter 09
00:39:49.553 : en:Chapter 10
00:42:26.410 : en:Chapter 11
00:45:45.109 : en:Chapter 12
00:51:21.578 : en:Chapter 13
00:56:32.922 : en:Chapter 14
00:59:07.911 : en:Chapter 15
01:03:18.461 : en:Chapter 16
01:07:13.896 : en:Chapter 17
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Overall bit rate mode : Variable
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Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-25 12:21:06
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-25 13:11:57
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00:04:13.519 : Chapter 02
00:06:38.997 : Chapter 03
00:10:04.920 : Chapter 04
00:13:56.518 : Chapter 05
00:16:40.015 : Chapter 06
00:21:30.888 : Chapter 07
00:28:18.763 : Chapter 08
00:32:49.400 : Chapter 09
00:39:49.703 : Chapter 10
00:42:26.560 : Chapter 11
00:45:45.341 : Chapter 12
00:51:21.728 : Chapter 13
00:56:33.072 : Chapter 14
00:59:08.143 : Chapter 15
01:03:18.694 : Chapter 16
01:07:14.046 : Chapter 17
01:12:35.950 : Chapter 18
01:16:05.243 : Chapter 19
01:20:23.668 : Chapter 20
Thanks for the valuable input.
To clarify - I am using the PLEX server on the NAS but also have ReadyDLNA on as my Bluray player is "DLNA" capable. I put the DLNA in quotes as many Sony products do not actually support all the video formats that one would expect on DLNA especially when being streamed from a NAS. The bluray player recognizes 2 servers - one ReadyNAS and one PLEX (but does not have a PLEX app). I have 2 Roku 2xs' with the PLEX app installed. I will give it a shot at decreasing the bandwidth on the Roku to see if that helps and report back.
Last night I created a separate folder on the NAS with my IPad versions of my movies. One folder has the mkv (created through MakeMKV) and the other a smaller copies made by running the mkv through Handbrake and its ipad preset (.m4v). I then tried streaming the 2 through both the DLNA and the Roku. Most noticeably, the streaming of the smaller copy was smoother, had faster fast-forward and reverse, more movie stored in the buffer and in a shorter amount of time. The receiver, I suspect, upconverts the video and so even though the ipad version may be at a lower resolution, it appeared at least as good as a 720p. As an aside, my family is primarily Apple and I haven't invested yet in the equipment to rip the blurays that we have - all rips are from the DVD version and thus not at 1080p. I am concerned though, that a 1080p rip, due to file size would be slow and frustrating. What has been your experience with streaming ripped Blurays?
Lastly, the Sony was able to stream the m4v from the NAS without difficulty. Also, I suspect when I play the mkv it may change the 6 channels to 2 channels before passing to my receiver.
I've attached the Mediainfo on the 2 versions of a movie for your perusal.
Question for btaroli: clarification for you. "Further, I'd strongly recommend using native PLEX clients to DLNA." Do you set PLEX on your Samsung Smart TV to stream from DLNA or from PLEX?
Thanks!
General
Unique ID : 192469561273071648660461029975541870873 (0x90CC4A055577E63FF120D6DC54CAF119)
Complete name : /Volumes/media/Videos/Movies MKV and Streaming/DR_SEUSS_THE_LORAX/Dr Seuss The Lorax.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 4.46 GiB
Duration : 1h 26mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 7 393 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-25 05:25:41
Writing application : MakeMKV v1.7.9 darwin(x86-release)
Writing library : libmakemkv v1.7.9 (1.2.0/1.1.0) darwin(x86-release)
Video
ID : 1
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Custom
Codec ID : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 798 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Original frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Time code of first frame : 00:59:59;00
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
Audio
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 26mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 277 MiB (6%)
Title : 3/2+1
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 01
00:04:13.286 : en:Chapter 02
00:06:38.765 : en:Chapter 03
00:10:04.770 : en:Chapter 04
00:13:56.368 : en:Chapter 05
00:16:39.865 : en:Chapter 06
00:21:30.656 : en:Chapter 07
00:28:18.530 : en:Chapter 08
00:32:49.167 : en:Chapter 09
00:39:49.553 : en:Chapter 10
00:42:26.410 : en:Chapter 11
00:45:45.109 : en:Chapter 12
00:51:21.578 : en:Chapter 13
00:56:32.922 : en:Chapter 14
00:59:07.911 : en:Chapter 15
01:03:18.461 : en:Chapter 16
01:07:13.896 : en:Chapter 17
01:12:35.718 : en:Chapter 18
01:16:05.093 : en:Chapter 19
01:20:23.518 : en:Chapter 20
01:26:19.207 : en:Chapter 21
General
Complete name : /Volumes/media/Videos/Compressed DVD for Ipad/Dr Seuss The Lorax.m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 780 MiB
Duration : 1h 26mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 1 263 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-25 12:21:06
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-25 13:11:57
Writing application : HandBrake 0.9.8 2012071800
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
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Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
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Width : 720 pixels
Height : 464 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 1.85:1
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Minimum frame rate : 15.152 fps
Maximum frame rate : 30.303 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.136
Stream size : 674 MiB (86%)
Writing library : x264 core 120
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=240 / keyint_min=24 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
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Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-25 13:11:57
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.601
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Codec ID : 40
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Maximum bit rate : 284 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : 116ms
Stream size : 102 MiB (13%)
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-25 12:21:06
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-25 13:11:57
Menu
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Encoded date : UTC 2012-12-25 12:21:06
Tagged date : UTC 2012-12-25 13:11:57
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00:00:00.000 : Chapter 01
00:04:13.519 : Chapter 02
00:06:38.997 : Chapter 03
00:10:04.920 : Chapter 04
00:13:56.518 : Chapter 05
00:16:40.015 : Chapter 06
00:21:30.888 : Chapter 07
00:28:18.763 : Chapter 08
00:32:49.400 : Chapter 09
00:39:49.703 : Chapter 10
00:42:26.560 : Chapter 11
00:45:45.341 : Chapter 12
00:51:21.728 : Chapter 13
00:56:33.072 : Chapter 14
00:59:08.143 : Chapter 15
01:03:18.694 : Chapter 16
01:07:14.046 : Chapter 17
01:12:35.950 : Chapter 18
01:16:05.243 : Chapter 19
01:20:23.668 : Chapter 20
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