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Chooke
Jun 09, 2016Aspirant
Cannot connect to new router
Hi I have run the ReadyNAS for years without a glitch. However, now that I have a new router I can't send or recieve files from the NAS. It appears on Raidar, and it also appears under networks...
- Jun 12, 2016
Let's try some visuals...
Chooke wrote:
Doesn't seem to have a shortcut option when I right click on a share in windows.
I access the NAS \\10.1.1.119 in your case) so I see all the shares. Right-click on any, and you will see "create shortcut."
Chooke wrote:
I'd like to do this but I'm not sure what you mean by opening the computer pane? I can't find it on the start menu or right clicking on the start menu. I tried doing it in the File Explorer pane but no luck.
It is in file explorer. Here's another visual. I right clicked on empty space, not on one of the icons.
Chooke wrote:
The DNS setting field was never greyed out (this is under the global settings screen rather than the interface screen which has the DHCP/IPv4 commands). However, strangely enough, Frontview in the interface screen will now no longer accept a change back to its previous "use values from a DHCP server" state, saying that the "IP address is invalid", so it is stuck at the IPv4 address of 10.1.1.119 and sub net mask 255.255.255.0
If the ipv4 assignment on the network->interfaces tab says "use values from a dhcp server" then you should be ok. Just leave it like that.
Chooke wrote:
Stephen, I presume once I get the this sorted on my PC, I'll need to do the same on the family's PC in the main room (it currently also has the same access/visibility issue). However, the other concern I have is that my music streamer and TV DLNA no longer works with the new router. I'm not sure whether the issue is that it cannot access the NAS or it has something to do with the new router, unrelated to the NAS. On the one hand I'm having no other wireless issue with other devices in the home that do not use the NAS for its content but on the other hand, the streamer and TV should still be providing options such as streaming from a PC?
Yes, you'll need to check the other PC, and make similar changes.
On streaming, first check that services are enabled on the NAS - look at Services->Streaming services, but also make sure Bonjour and upnp are checked Services->discovery services.
Then try rebooting the streamer and the TV.
If it still fails, then look for a upnp service setting in the router, and try reversing (disabling it if it is enabled, enabling it if it is disabled).
Chooke
Jun 11, 2016Aspirant
Hi Stephen, see below.
On the duo v1, the NAS workgroup is set on the network->global settings page. On most Windows systems you right click the computer icon and select properties.
Chooke wrote:The other thing I didn't mention before is that while I can log into the NAS with the https://10.1.1.119/admin command, I cannot do so with just https://10.1.1.119. With the latter it says the password is incorrect even before I type it in. When I type it in it says it is incorrect and gives another option to log in as a guest - which doesn't allow me in either.
My duo v1 redirects https://10.1.1.119 to https://10.1.1.119/shares not https://10.1.1.119/admin Your problem might be because you don't have http set up to browse your shares. Personally I only rarely access it that way, so it might not need to be fixed.
I spent quite a bit of time on it today. I went into windows credential manager and deleted the NAS credentials but it made no difference. As mentioned previously, there does not appear to be a IPv6 command on the NAS software, only IPv4 and while the router is set to IPv6, there doesn't appear to be an IPv4 command.
Yes, the duo v1 only supports ipv4 (my bad for sending you down that path). The router likely won't let up disable ipv4, so you could try disabling ipv6.
I tried disabling IPv6 in the router but I then lose all my wireless connections.
Chooke wrote:As both the router and NAS were set to be a DHCP server, I turned it off on the NAS but it made no difference. I then tried this the other way round (ie turn it off on the router and leave it on the NAS) but then I lost my internet connection in addition to not rectifying the NAS issue.
You only want one DHCP server on the network, and it should be the router.
I noticed that the command from Frontview is "use values from a DHCP server", so am I correct to say it is already using the DHCP server on the router? However when I previously tried to set the command to "use values below", when resetting it to "use values from a DHCP server" and then "renew now" it would do so without error. Now, as of today, it comes back with "invalid IP address".
Chooke wrote:
Any suggestions from here?
You don't have a IPv4 addressing problem - if you did, then you wouldn't be able to reach the admin page.
-check that the PCs have classified the wifi connection as "private" (or either "home" or "work"). Also check that file sharing is enabled for that network type on the Windows system. In win7 and win10 that is done via the "change advanced sharing settings" on the left of the network and sharing center.
I can confirm that the wifi connection is "private" and "home".
-if there is any internet security software on the PC try disabling it temporarily.
No difference
-try opening CMD and entering the following commands:
net use * /delete
net use t: \\10.1.1.119\c /user:admin nasadminpassword
using the real NAS admin password of course. The first command likely will give you an error that you can ignore. If it prompts you to confirm, then let it proceed. It closes any open network sessions on the PC (which does no damage, and it doesn't actually delete anything).
returned "there are no entries on the list"
The second command tells the PC to mount the data volume on the duo (which is called "c") to drive letter t on the PC. The NAS requires the admin account credentials to mount the data volume. Let us know if that works (and if not, what error it creates).
returned "system error 86 has occurred. The specified network password is incorrect" The password I used was netgear1, which gets me to frontview ie through https://10.1.1.119/admin
One thing I noticed which is strange is that the NAS appears twice on the Windows networks page. It appears under "Storage" and also under "Media" but with a different icon. The strange thing, apart from the two entries, is that if I right click on the NAS icon under "Media" and then the link to the website, it takes me to Frontview. However if I do the same with the icon under "Storage" it comes back with the error and error code i mentioned in the first post.
Another thing which may be relevant is that using Raidar is that is shows everthing as healthy. I can access Frontview through the Admin button and the Locate button functions as well. However, if I click on the Browse button it comes up with a log in screen that already says that my password is invalid, before I type it in. When I type in the username and password it says it is invalid and provides an additional option to log in as a guest, which won't accept the username/password either.
StephenB
Jun 11, 2016Guru
Chooke wrote:
I noticed that the command from Frontview is "use values from a DHCP server", so am I correct to say it is already using the DHCP server on the router? However when I previously tried to set the command to "use values below", when resetting it to "use values from a DHCP server" and then "renew now" it would do so without error. Now, as of today, it comes back with "invalid IP address".
Use values from a DHCP server is the correct setting. Don't mess with "use values below". If you can still reach the NAS, then you are ok. Your problem is NOT RELATED to this setting.
Chooke wrote:
I tried disabling IPv6 in the router but I then lose all my wireless connections.
What router do you have (vendor and model)?
Chooke wrote:
returned "system error 86 has occurred. The specified network password is incorrect" The password I used was netgear1, which gets me to frontview ie through https://10.1.1.119/admin
You need to change the admin password in order for second command to work. So please try changing it, and then try the two commands again.
- ChookeJun 11, 2016Aspirant
Hi Stephen
What router do you have (vendor and model)?
I'm not 100% sure of the brand/model of the modem/router as it is provided and branded by the internet provider as part of our connection to VSL (we lucked out and got Fibre to the Node rather than Fibre to the Premises). I understand from other local forums though that it is based on the Broadcom BCM63168. For what its worth the link below is the manual.
You need to change the admin password in order for second command to work. So please try changing it, and then try the two commands again.
I changed the password to admin1 in Frontview, saved it and rebooted. The first command gave the same message as previously. The second command gave the following message:
C:\Users\Frank>net use t: \\10.1.1.119\c /admin admin1
The option /ADMIN is unknown.The syntax of this command is:
NET USE
[devicename | *] [\\computername\sharename[\volume] [password | *]]
[/USER:[domainname\]username]
[/USER:[dotted domain name\]username]
[/USER:[username@dotted domain name]
[/SMARTCARD]
[/SAVECRED]
[[/DELETE] | [/PERSISTENT:{YES | NO}]]NET USE {devicename | *} [password | *] /HOME
NET USE [/PERSISTENT:{YES | NO}]
More help is available by typing NET HELPMSG 3506.
C:\Users\Frank> BCM63168 BCM63168- StephenBJun 11, 2016Guru
Chooke wrote:
I changed the password to admin1 in Frontview, saved it and rebooted. The first command gave the same message as previously. The second command gave the following message:
C:\Users\Frank>net use t: \\10.1.1.119\c /admin admin1
The option /ADMIN is unknown.There's no problem with the warning on the first command.
You typed the second incorrectly:
net use t: \\10.1.1.119\c /user:admin admin1
- ChookeJun 12, 2016Aspirant
Hi Stephen
Making some progress now...
I typed the CMD command properly and it came back as successful. After doing that I rebooted the PC and the NAS.
I still cannot access shares through Frontview (it comes back with shares not accessible) and if I right click on the NAS icon under networks in windows it still comes back with the same error message as mentioned in my first post.
However, on the left pane under File Explore, there is now an entry of c (\\10.1.1.119), and it contains all the subdirectories and files that are on the NAS. What's more is that I can even access the files through that directory and actually playing a song from there as I'm typing this. It seems rather strange because the NAS still does not appear on that same left pane under Networks but it appears on the right hand side of the page both as a storage icon and a media icon. If i click on the NAS storage icon it comes back with that error message as mentioned above, but if i click on the media icon it takes me to the Frontview page.
Lastly, and this could be related to the current issue, when I last played around with the NAS settings in Frontview in the last post, under Global Settings, DNS Settings, I changed the setting to 10.1.1.1 which is the IP address of the router. I presume I should not have done that. If so, what should I change this to?
Thanks
Frank
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